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1 Meeting House Management Committee Minutes 2026-01-13
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2 Tuesday 13 January, 5.15 p.m., in 7 Victoria Terrace
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4 And then with Trustees from 6.15 to 6.45, if you can
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6 * Attendance: JP Ascher, Rachael Fitzgerald, Emma
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7 Lawrence (online), Katrina McCrea (online), Sammi Searle, Henry
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8 S. Thompson, Andy Tucker, Duncan Wallace
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10 Prevented: Laragh Quinney, Chris Jardine
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12 * Matters Arising
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13
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14 * Meeting House closure
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16 HST was on 'phone cover during Managers' absence for a few days,
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17 no calls came in
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19 * YFGM
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20 *Action* on HST: Ask YFGM for feedback about other venues after the
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21 upcoming visit.
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22
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23 * Community Evening on Mondays
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25 We said in November that we were minded to approve this for a
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26 January start, but Ellie (EG) and the Managers needed a bit more
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27 time to get a complete plan ready, see below.
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29 * Convenor's report
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30
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31 * Welcome Emma Lawrence
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32
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33 * Managers' report
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35 * New Website
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36
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37 * New emails for 7 VT office and Managers
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39 * Lift inspection
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41 We *agreed* to authorise a further more detailed report on its
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42 condition.
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44 * Fringe let to CVenues
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46 We *agreed* to authorise a CPI-based annual increment in the fee.
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47 The lease needs to be clear about detail: e.g. uplift in April on
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48 the basis of January CPI.
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50 We *agreed* to work the HK to explore [bed tax] funding for venue
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51 improvements
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53 We *agreed* to tell Trustees about allowing alcohol for sale
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55 * Financial Report
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57 Slides attached as circulated
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59 We *endorse* CJ's point 6. Managers will meet with CJ shortly to
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60 begin this process. Forecasting is _always_ vulnerable to
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61 unexpected events, but we can at least do better than the current
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62 uniform division by 12 approach.
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63
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64 We are very grateful to CJ for his excellent report.
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66 * Works to be undertaken: Bow Room
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68 We have asbesto behind the cupboard. Demolition and refurbishment
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69 survey? And then remediation. Recommendation is if building work
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70 is planned then such a survey should be commissioned for the
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71 relevant areas.
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73 There is an earlier survey, but its scope and date is not
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74 immediately available.
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76 We *agreed* to revert to the companies we've asked to quote for a
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77 clear statement of the scope of the investigation they've already
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78 done, the scope of the work they have quoted for, and to _increase_
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79 that scope to the whole of the Bow Room. Feed in to that any
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80 information from the putative earlier survey, as a matter of
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81 urgency. If this involves up-front expenditure up to £2,000 that is
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82 *approved*.
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84 As soon as the scope of the previous survey is clear we will need to
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85 make the situation public, but for the time being we will keep the
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86 news quiet.
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88 For the time being we will stop letting the Bow Room, in
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89 anticipation of refurbishment.
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91 * Central Edinburgh Sunday fee
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93 AM Treasurer has asked if we plan to change this. It's currently
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94 £600. Maybe it's time to ditch this meaningless paper transfer?
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96 > Catriona suggests a 6% increase to Central Edinburgh, does that seem
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97 > sensible?
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99 > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
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100 > From: Central Edinburgh Treasurer (Catriona Dickson)
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101 > Subject: Re: Edin Quaker Meeting House use rates
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102 > To: SESAM Treasurer (Jonathan Riddell) <se-treasurer@quaker.scot>
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105 > Rent 2024@ £563.20 per month. Rent from Jan 2025 @ £600.00 per month
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108 > That was approx a 6% increase. so maybe we could expect £636.00 per month
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109 > from Jan 2026, but of course I would prefer no increase!
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112 * Staff escalation route if they need backup
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114 The Minutes on this item from 2025-10-20 say:
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116 Trustees asked us:
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118 "we need ... an assurance from [MHMC] that staff have an
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119 escalation route whenever they need backup. ... We are happy for
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120 trustees to be on a reserve backup list in case no-one from MHMC
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121 is available."
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123 All we have at the moment is an informal phone tree: MHM -> MHMC via
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124 HST -> Trustees via Martin Ward
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126 What SCALP gave us was more in the direction of how to behave
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127 towards the police in a less than full-cooperation way. But was not
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128 really quite what we expected/hoped for for _building staff_.
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130 De-escalation training! RF to let us know more about this.
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132 * Policy/procedures for early booking arrivals
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134 What is the policy wrt Friends opening the front door when they are
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135 in the Foyer, there are no staff present and someone knocks or
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136 rings?
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138 This may arise if for example someone with a booking arrives more
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139 than 15 minutes early, a tourist wants to ask questions or look for
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140 Major Weir...
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142 This is clearly complicated, and begs the question of how a Friend
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143 or Friends may come to be in the Foyer without staff.
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145 This interacts with the "be a welcoming place for SESAM" goal.
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147 * Policy for charges to non-SESAM Quaker bodies
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149 We need to standardise on a more nuanced policy for e.g. YFGM, QiS,
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150 NFPB, along the lines of covering costs (which is a lot if the MH
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151 would otherwise be closed, nothing at all if staff would already be
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152 present throughout, marginal cost for adding housr, requiring
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153 flexibility about what room they end up in on the day, ...
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155 Does it matter if _none_ of the participants will be from SESAM?
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157 * Convenor of MHMC
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159 HST demits office on 1 April...
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161 * Date of next meeting
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163 Tentatively Monday 2 March at 1715 in 7 VT
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165 * AOB
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167 * Time without staff
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169 * Joint session with Trustees
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170
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171 Joined by Treasue, AM Clerk, Mark Ballard, MW, Ian Robertson
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172
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173 HST shared the news about the Bow Room and requested confidentiality
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174 for the time being
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175
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176 MW introduced Trustees' view of budgeting process and the goal of
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177 the self-sustaining wrt the two 'businesses' of 7VT and Kelso.
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179 Quarterly reports to Trustees about the state of things look like
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180 being about right, but details are still being worked out.
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182 MW on QiS: Keep communications going
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183
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184 Three pots of money from The Legacy: the buildings; other projects;
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185 _quodlibet_ by competition; all subject to a business case with
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186 respect to the work of the Church.
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187
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188 DW: Strategy formation and governance? Marketing? This needs time
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189 over against maintenance... Who should be driving this, as between
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190 AM, Trustees and MHMC. MHMC has much more engagement with the 7VT
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191 building than all but one Trustee.
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192
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193 The Affordability Study provides useful starting points for that.
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194
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195 The budget highlighted how AM could (not) spend time on strategic.
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196
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197 As requested by CVenues, MHMC asks Trustees if they would
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198 countenance allowing the sale of alcohol during the Fringe let.
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199
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200 It might be time to test this question with AM, against a background
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201 of a shift in attitude towards the consumption of alcohol in
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202 moderation, when the whole of 7VT is being let, and consumption is
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203 part of having a drink with a show.
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