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| author | Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> |
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| date | Tue, 14 Jan 2025 15:02:12 +0000 |
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| 568 | 1 Rough notes of a meeting at 7 Victoria Terrace |
| 2 8 November 2024 | |
| 3 Henry S. Thompson | |
| 4 | |
| 5 Present: Rachel Fitzgerald (RF), Madeleine Harding (MH), Katrina | |
| 6 McCrea (KM), John Phillips (JP), Majk Stokes (MS), Henry Thompson (HT) | |
| 7 | |
| 567 | 8 KM welcomed us to a meeting to support Majk Stokes after the outcome |
| 9 of the appointment process. | |
| 10 | |
| 568 | 11 |
| 12 KM invited MS to share how he was feeling. | |
| 567 | 13 |
| 568 | 14 MS: Assistant Manager for 12 years, and Acting Manager for 4 months, |
| 15 promotion was the obvious next step, so very disappointed. | |
| 567 | 16 |
| 568 | 17 MS: 'New perspective?' Discounts all the hard work and experience, |
| 18 feels like this counted against me instead of being a positive | |
| 19 | |
| 20 MS: Still quite raw. | |
| 567 | 21 |
| 568 | 22 MS: Long delay in reply to my email at the time was not appreciated. |
| 567 | 23 |
| 568 | 24 MS: Signalled interest in the job at the beginning of the summer, wasn't |
| 25 given any help at all. | |
| 567 | 26 |
| 27 -------- | |
| 28 | |
| 29 KM: Full and open procedure, equal treatment: In the end panel choose | |
| 30 more depth and breadth of experience in person management and venue | |
| 31 management. | |
| 32 | |
| 568 | 33 KM: Giving feedback even now, panel hopes is useful going forewords. |
| 567 | 34 |
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35 KM: Feedback specifically for Majk, in person, should have happened as |
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36 soon as possible after the decision was made, he was owed that, and |
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37 the panel apologises. |
| 567 | 38 |
| 568 | 39 RF: Absence of Majk's line manager meant the person normally responsible |
| 567 | 40 for helping him wasn't there, and MC failed to step in and do that |
| 41 job. | |
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43 HT: As MC Convenor, my responsibility, and I apologise for failing at |
| 568 | 44 that. |
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| 568 | 46 JP: New perspective? Something the panel were looking for? |
| 567 | 47 |
| 568 | 48 KM: No, not going in, it was something that emerged in the interview |
| 49 process. Coming into a new situation allows new ideas. _But_ new | |
| 50 perspective wasn't the starting point, or the primary point. | |
| 567 | 51 |
| 568 | 52 KM: MS & Beth Clarke (BC) interviewed very well, but so did the other |
| 53 candidates. We had a very hard time making the decision. | |
| 567 | 54 |
| 568 | 55 MS: still struggling to see why he and BC couldn't have done this |
| 567 | 56 as well or better. |
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58 MS: And it now looks like I'm being pushed back to Ass't Mgr and |
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59 showing the new Managers how everything works, that's hard to take. |
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60 At the very least I should continue to be paid at the higher rate for |
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61 their induction period. |
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63 RF: Delay in panel response to Majk's email was bad, but it was _very_ |
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64 hard to reply in writing. Agreed that retaining Acting Manager pay |
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65 for the induction period is a reasonable request. |
| 567 | 66 |
| 568 | 67 KM: Looking Forward |
| 567 | 68 |
| 568 | 69 MS: The fact that Miranda changed to my not being paid for lunch break |
| 70 means I'm very nearly working a full week | |
| 567 | 71 |
| 568 | 72 MS: I would like to go down to a two-day week. Maybe after three |
| 73 months of helping new managers settle in? Start in January would be | |
| 567 | 74 better? |
| 75 | |
| 568 | 76 MS: I'd like to have a more environmental or creative focus: |
| 77 * recycling/energy efficiency aspect perhaps | |
| 78 * C-venues were a mess, they don't learn from their mistakes, | |
| 79 Greenside would have been a better bet, make my job more about | |
| 80 planning for and managing "Venue 40", that would be much more | |
| 81 satisfying. That's obviously a whole conversation to be had. | |
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83 MS: So having a project, taking the lead on something, for example |
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84 Venue 40 AND/or environmental, that would be great. |
| 567 | 85 |
| 86 RF: New managers would be really excited to hear that. | |
| 87 | |
| 568 | 88 RF: Easy to lose sight of the environmental stuff, so having someone |
| 89 actually pushing that on staff will be good. Also this is a great time | |
| 90 to get that going. | |
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92 RF: Sabbatical next year? Certainly possible. |
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| 94 JP: Beth's thoughts? | |
| 567 | 95 |
| 568 | 96 MS: Not the historical connection with the Meeting that I had, so not |
| 97 the same emotional investment. Mostly angry on Majk's behalf. Would | |
| 98 have found ways to do the job well. | |
| 567 | 99 |
| 568 | 100 MS: Not here today because this meeting is for Majk, looking at other |
| 101 avenues for new work. | |
| 567 | 102 |
| 568 | 103 [Beth not interested in pursuing a casual job at the Meeting House] |
| 567 | 104 |
| 568 | 105 KM: Wrapping up: |
| 106 | |
| 107 * There's an open door for further discussion. | |
| 567 | 108 |
| 568 | 109 * MS will provide induction for new Managers for period of up to 3 months |
| 567 | 110 |
| 568 | 111 MS requests |
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| 568 | 113 * Continue at current Acting Manager pay rate during induction |
| 114 | |
| 115 * Then go down to 2 days | |
| 567 | 116 |
| 568 | 117 * Be considered for sabbatical later in 2025/6 |
| 567 | 118 |
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119 * To be given responsibility over a project such as environmental |
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120 sustainability and/or Venue 40 |
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122 MC will get back to MS on this ASAP, although decisions/details with |
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123 respect to some of these will need to involve Sammi and Andy |
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125 HST has let S&A know that Majk and Beth applied for the job. MS will |
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126 let them know that he has no animus towards them personally. |
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| 568 | 128 JP&MH are happy to continue to support MS. |
| 567 | 129 |