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1 Meeting House Management Committee Agenda 2026-03-02
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2 Monday 2 March, 5.15 p.m., in 7 Victoria Terrace
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4 * Attendance: JP Ascher, Rachael Fitzgerald, Emma Lawrence, Katrina
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5 McCrea (via Zoom), Laragh Quinney, Henry S. Thompson (HST),
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6 Andy Tucker
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8 Prevented: Chris Jardine, Duncan Wallace, Sammi Searle
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10 * Matters Arising
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12 * YFGM
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14 *Action* on HST: Ask YFGM for feedback about other venues
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15 *Done*, no reply as yet.
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17 * Managers' report
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19 * Fringe Update
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21 Still working on getting the multi-year contract finalised. Hartley
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22 is very busy at the moment but we had a quick meeting on Thursday to
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23 go over it. He sent us a multi-year contract template that they’ve
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24 used with the Freemasons, but it contains some clauses we’re not
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25 happy with. We’ve talked about it though and I understand where he’s
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26 coming from so I think we can figure something out.
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28 He asked if there can be any more flexibility with the Midweek Meeting
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29 slot. Apparently 75 minutes is a tricky amount of time to program around -
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30 could it be an hour?
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32 Also, he asked if it could be any earlier or later. The current
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33 contract says between 11:30 and 14:00. He said 11:00 or even 11:15
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34 would make it easier for him as well.
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36 We *agreed* *Action* on MH Managers: discuss this with Midweek
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37 Meeting attendees with an eye to agreeing with some version of
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38 Hartley's request
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39
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40 * Heating Survey
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42 Following a visit from from Luths we're still waiting for a promised report
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44 A new possibility is what's know as a "mini-heat pump" which can
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45 be sited inside to provide warm or cool air.
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47 St. Augustines are looking at something like this
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49 * Charity Rate Monday
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51 Progress is happening - posters have been put out to advertise it,
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52 and Ellie has spoken to some groups directly. We haven’t had much
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53 interest yet from the groups we’ve contacted so far.
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55 Part of the feedback has been that even at half-price our rooms
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56 still aren’t much cheaper than the cheapest venues - which makes it
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57 not worth the hassle of moving day/venue.
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58
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59 * Website update
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61 Moving slowly due to circumstances outside of our control, but
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62 progress is happening.
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63
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64 * Full Building Electrical Survey
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66 John Renshaw said this is a thing that should be done every 5 years
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67 Majk did some research and said he saw somewhere that this was a
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68 recommendation rather than a requirement, I have asked him to go
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69 back and find a source on that.
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71 We’ve got a few quotes - two for about £3.1k and one for about £
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72 1.6k! I haven’t had time to go through and see why the cheaper one
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73 is so much cheaper!
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75 * Lift Condition Report
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77 It was recommended - we’d like to get it - £327 - is that ok?
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79 We *agreed* that this should go ahead.
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81 * Training Updates
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82
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83 We have organised a first aid training at the MH, opening it to
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84 other organisations like Augustine in order to keep cost to a
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85 minimum.
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87 We will be doing the same with other essential training in time, and
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88 we’re exploring options to bring the most opportunities for staff
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89 learning/training that we will update the MHMC when we have
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90 finalised our thoughts
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91
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92 *Inclusive Toilet mention on website:*
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94 Ellie has written some text for the website about our toilets - are
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95 the committee ok with this?
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97 * Short Version
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99 Yes, our toilets are trans-inclusive meaning that toilets labelled
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100 ‘female’ or ‘male’ are intended for any person for whom these
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101 facilities are best aligned with their lived experience. There are
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102 also two un-gendered self-contained cubicles, one of which is
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103 accessible.
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105 *Long Version:*
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107 Our toilet facilities are trans-inclusive, meaning that toilets
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108 labelled ‘female’ or ‘male’ are intended for any person for whom
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109 these facilities are best aligned with their lived
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110 experience. Further details are outlined below:
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112 - There is one accessible, un-gendered facility on the ground floor with a
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113 private basin, hand rails, a sanitary bin, and free period
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114 products. The size and layout of the cubicle allows wheelchair
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115 users to transfer from the left-hand side of the toilet only.
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117 - There is a second un-gendered facility on the ground floor with a
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118 toilet, basin, baby-changing facilities, a sanitary bin and free period
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119 products.
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121 - There are toilets labelled ‘male’ located on the stairs between
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122 the ground floor and the first floor which contain 2x urinals, 2x
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123 individual cubicles, a shared hand washing area, and free period products.
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125 - There are toilets labelled ‘female’ located on the mezzanine
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126 between the first and second floor which contain 3x single cubicle
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127 toilets each with a sanitary bin, a shared handwashing area, baby
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128 changing facilities, and free period products.
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130 * Full-building wiring survey
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132 EICR 5-year recommendation, we've been doing it, St. Augs ditto
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133 We *Agreed* that the Managers should go ahead with this, after a
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134 review of several quotes.
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136 * More thorough lift report
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138 We *Agreed* that the Managers should go ahead with this
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140 * Financial Report
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142 Chris's report was circulated in advance
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144 Our thanks to Chris, as before this is very helpful and encouraging.
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145 Could we have some comparisons with last year at our next meeting, please.
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147 * Works to be undertaken: Bow Room
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149 * Bow Room/Asbestos Update
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151 The company who did the original test has gone into administration!
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152 Asbestos regulations changed in 2012, so our previous survey is out
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153 of date. What we think is best to do now is:
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155 - Get a new full building Management Survey.
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157 - Get a Refurbishment Survey of the Bow Room - because that’s where
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158 we’re planning to do the work.
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160 - Get more thorough checks under the floor of the Bow Room corridor
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161 (for potential accessibility improvements) and in the ceiling
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162 cavities above the Hall and Meeting Room (for
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163 soundproofing/heating installation)
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165 Got 4 quotes for this (all inc VAT)
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166
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167 - *Forth Asbestos Surveys - £1200*
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169 The only one who wanted to come and look around before
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170 quoting. Based very locally, seems very knowledgeable. But he
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171 is the most expensive by far
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172
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173 - *ASA Asbestos - £1008*
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174
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175 They’ve done work at Riddle’s Court around the corner. I spoke
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176 to the guy on the phone and he gave a good impression, but
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177 when I asked about coming to visit the site they said they
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178 wouldn’t normally do that and they would charge for it.
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180 - *Safe Environment - £960*
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181
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182 My least favourite - automatic responses, haven’t answered any
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183 of my questions
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184
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185 - Asbestos Building Surveys - £943.20
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186
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187 Are sending someone round on Tuesday to have a look
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188
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189 * Central Edinburgh Sunday fee
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190
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191 AM Treasurer has asked if we plan to change this. It's currently
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192 £600. Has been done since 2023 (£512). So maybe £600.
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193
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194 Need to know when/how much was last increase before deciding, and
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195 the Quaker rate idea has been agreed *Action HST*
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196
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197 * Staff escalation route if they need backup
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198
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199 The Minutes on this item from 2025-10-20 say:
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200
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201 Trustees asked us:
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202
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203 "we need ... an assurance from [MHMC] that staff have an
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204 escalation route whenever they need backup. ... We are happy for
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205 trustees to be on a reserve backup list in case no-one from MHMC
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206 is available."
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207
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208 All we had in the past was an informal phone tree: MHM---MHMC via
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209 HST---Trustees via Martin Ward
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210
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211 What SCALP gave us was more in the direction of how to behave
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212 towards the police in a less than full-cooperation way. But was not
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213 really quite what we expected/hoped for for _building staff_.
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214
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215 Staff now have a plan they are happy with: Manager contact in
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216 TeamUp, fallback to MHMC via phone list (on wall) *Action Andy* to
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217 create the phone list
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218
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219 * Policy/procedures for early booking arrivals
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220
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221 What is the policy wrt Friends opening the front door when they are
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222 in the Foyer, there are no staff present and someone knocks or
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223 rings?
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224
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225 This may arise if for example someone with a booking arrives more
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226 than 15 minutes early, a tourist wants to ask questions or look for
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227 Major Weir...
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228
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229 This is clearly complicated, and begs the question of how a Friend
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230 or Friends may come to be in the Foyer without staff.
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231
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232 This interacts with the "be a welcoming place for SESAM" goal.
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233
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234 Jonathan Riddell has complained about not being allowed in
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235
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236 The problem is only in general outside M-F 9-5. Outside that time
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237 if the outer door is locked, it will only be opened for events 15
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238 minutes before a booking.
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239
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240 After MfW on Sunday if there is an event is another tricky point.
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241
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242 The Managers are working on an explicit set of guidelines
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243
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244 *Action Andy* to send guidelines to Katrina and HST, HST to tidy and
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245 send to LM Clerks
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246
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247 * Sale of Alcohol
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248
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249 It might be time to test this question with AM, against a background
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250 of a shift in attitude towards the consumption of alcohol in
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251 moderation, when the whole of 7VT is being let, and consumption is
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252 part of having a drink with a show.
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253
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254 [Not resolved, carried forward]
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255
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256 * Convenor of MHMC
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257
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258 HST leaves the Committee on 1 April...
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259
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260 *Action HST* to produce a list of bullet points wrt what the job entails and
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261 send to C'ttee (including SS and AT)
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262
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263 We *agreed* to move quickly to have a meeting of MHMC without the
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264 Managers or HST to discuss this and how if necessary the role could
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265 be split
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266
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267 The C'tte expressed its thanks to HST for the many contributions he
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268 has made over the last three years.
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269
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270 * Date of next meeting
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271
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272 We need to do a reset on what everyone's blackout days are...