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author Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk>
date Tue, 11 Jun 2024 21:26:09 +0100
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files Ballard_2024-06-11.txt
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 HT: Tell your Quaker story
 MB:
 At Univ, in early 1990s, moved into a new flat, I had agreed to take
-over that running of the EU Green Society.  My flatmate Anna agreed a
+over that running of the EU Green Society.  My flatmate Anna [Levin] agreed a
 deal, that she would go to GS mtgs, if I would go to Quaker meeting,
 which was Victoria Terrace.
 Soon I felt the "secret power" and go "knitted in".
@@ -36,3 +36,37 @@
 Ministry, here, now, without any qualification feels very different to
 me.
 HT: Like
+MB: We started with "secret power" and knit..
+    I thought I was coming to a gathering of friendly people who were
+a bit spiritual, and it takes a while, years, to detect the secret
+seeking for spirtual guidance that we shared.  You're not just sitting
+with a bunch of like-minded people, rather you may find what someone
+else's spiritual path may not be going where yours is.  But that's
+actually a very important aspect of Quakerism.
+MfW and the QBusMe are a great resolution of the Protestant dilemma,
+that there is no barrier between God and us.
+Right Ordering does belong as a religious test for being Quaker.
+[HT and MB discuss theory of membership]
+Environmental Protest Workshop on decision making, democratic process,
+anarchist consensus decision process, ceding authority to someone in a
+protest in order to make us safe, you take it for all of us and it is
+by definition right.  So the same for MCA: you aren't there, you
+uphold them for the decision the make.
+JD: I agree about the respnsibilty/rights relationship, but you can
+    also take initiative [ref joke]
+MB: Musselb members are interested in a 3rd weekly meeting, and
+although I'd rather that didn't happen, I would uphold them and attend
+if they decide to go ahead.  Just because I don't want to organise it
+doesn't mean I won't support them if they do.
+[A complicated history]
+MB: My love of Quakers, ref. Anna and the Green Party story.  There
+was a MFA about same-sex marriage, when (before York) a male couple had asked
+for a ceremony of commitment, and it was a difficult MFA.  And the SGP
+was in some internal difficulties, where when you won a vote on a
+problematic issue, if you 'won' the vote, you tried you best to get
+rid of the losers, whereas the MCA worked very hard to support _all_
+the people there, to respect their pain and acknowledge it, respecting
+that of God in the people on the "other side".
+We are happy to recommend membership for MB, it's "a full stop on my
+process of discernment on whether I should become a Member" and it
+fills me with joy to join in the recommendation.