--- a/man/lispref/frames.texi	Mon Aug 13 11:19:22 2007 +0200
+++ b/man/lispref/frames.texi	Mon Aug 13 11:20:41 2007 +0200
@@ -9,19 +9,9 @@
 @cindex frame
 
   A @var{frame} is a rectangle on the screen that contains one or more
-XEmacs windows (@pxref{Windows}).  A frame initially contains a single
-main window (plus perhaps an echo area), which you can subdivide
-vertically or horizontally into smaller windows.  Each window is
-associated with a modeline (@pxref{Modeline Format}), and optionally two
-scrollbars (@pxref{Scrollbars}).  By default the vertical scrollbar is
-on, the horizontal scrollbar is off.
-
-  The frame may also contain menubars (@pxref{Menubar}), toolbars
-(@pxref{Toolbar Intro}), and gutters (@pxref{Gutter Intro}).  By default
-there is one of each at the top of the frame, with menubar topmost,
-toolbar next, and gutter lowest, immediately above the windows.
-(Warning: the gutter is a new, experimental, and unstable feature of
-XEmacs version 21.2.)
+XEmacs windows.  A frame initially contains a single main window (plus
+perhaps a minibuffer window), which you can subdivide vertically or
+horizontally into smaller windows.
 
 @cindex terminal frame
 @cindex X window frame