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+  <h1>Future of 7 VT working group: Fifth meeting</h1>
+  <div class="byline">This informal summary by Henry S. Thompson, Convenor</div>
+  <div class="byline">Held at 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh on 22 February 2009, 7:30 p.m.</div>
+ </div>
+ 
+  <div>
+   <h2>1.  Attendance</h2>
+   <p>Present: Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding,
+ Brian Mayes, Laurie Naumann,
+Eileen Schott, Henry Thompson (in the clerk's chair)</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <h2>2.  Paper from Phil Lucas</h2>
+   <p>HST circulated a paper with some thoughts from PL</p>
+   <p>AB reminded us that we must bear in mind that all the input we've had is from
+individual perspectives, on a very complex multi-faceted problem, and it is not
+surprising that the perspectives are not entirely consistent with one another. 
+Furthermore, those inconsistencies need not be 'blamed' on individuals.</p>
+   <p>We were left uncertain just what it would mean if we were, or were not, a "Quaker
+Centre".  Not all QCs are residential, if we understand KJ's contributions last time. 
+We are by far the largest Quaker premises in Scotland.  7VT is evidently not just a
+place which is primarily used for Meeting for Worship, and committee meetings.</p>
+   <p>The question of why we don't have outside signage arose.  When the terrace
+re-opens through to G-IV bridge, we should certainly try to get something put there
+again, with less uncertain orientation than the previous one.</p>
+   <p>How far can we go with sitting lightly to the full force of the health and
+safety, fire, food hygiene advice and/or regulations? AB has suggested to the Clerk of
+AM that we need a threshing meeting at AM level to air all the issues around the
+regulations.  We believe that Trustees have asked John Phillips to write a report on
+this.  Our testimony to truth and integrity can be a burden as well as a blessing.</p>
+   <p>Does the cooking regulation watershed apply <i>only</i> if food is sold, as
+opposed to being made available to the group which also does the cooking?  Is Fabric
+and Maintenance likely to know the answer?  Tom Nisbet? Ken Jobling?</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <h2>3.  Envisaging futures</h2>
+   <p>Brainstorming</p>
+   <ul>
+    <li>Day-time letting only?</li>
+    <li>Quaker Centre?</li>
+    <li>Full-service Rain Forest cafe?</li>
+    <li>Quaker presence?</li>
+    <li>Eliminate regular bookings in favour of blocks?</li>
+    <li>A Quaker-only centre?</li>
+    <li>Move out of town?</li>
+    <li>Primarily seen as a physical resource for the AM, with other activities complementing that</li>
+    <li>Simplify things?  Reduce the kitchen to hot-drinks only?</li>
+    <li>Being open to young Quaker groups?</li>
+    <li>Doing (whatever we do) in <i>our own space</i></li>
+    <li>Being a base for outreach?</li>
+    <li>Provide courses for Quakers (and non-Quakers) -- Quaker Quest all year round</li>
+    <li>Move kitchen to ground-floor, replacing office/Bow room, and make the
+foyer a real cafe [new from Anthony Buxton via HST after the meeting]</li>
+   </ul>
+   <p>Central Edinburgh LM has come to be very dependent on an attractive (that is,
+including hot soup) lunch -- what impact on that would the reduced kitchen option(s) make?</p>
+   <p>Again, does our particular situation mean that health and safety regulations
+apply fully or not when we have a youth group?</p>
+   <p>How well 'advertised' are the resources we already have here?  Different answers
+for different kinds of resources. . .  Where does this fit in?  Windows?</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <h2>4.  Actions</h2>
+   <p>HST to get the Kath Russell report, and some letting evaluation
+forms, say from 4Q2008, and circulate.  Also ask if any summary or collation has been done.</p>
+   <p>HST to ask Ken Jobling where to find the details of how food hygiene regulations
+apply depending on exactly what's happening.</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <h2>5.  Next Meeting</h2>
+   <p>Our next meeting will be at 7 Victoria Terrace at 7:30pm on Sunday 8 March.  We
+tentatively agreed on 23 March for our next meeting after that.</p>
+  </div>
+ 
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+ <head>
+  <title>Future of 7 VT working group: Fifth meeting</title>
+  <author>This informal summary by Henry S. Thompson, Convenor</author>
+  <date>Held at 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh on 22 February 2009, 7:30 p.m.</date>
+ </head>
+ <body>
+  <div>
+   <title>Attendance</title>
+   <p>Present: Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding,
+ Brian Mayes, Laurie Naumann,
+Eileen Schott, Henry Thompson (in the clerk's chair)</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Paper from Phil Lucas</title>
+   <p>HST circulated a paper with some thoughts from PL</p>
+   <p>AB reminded us that we must bear in mind that all the input we've had is from
+individual perspectives, on a very complex multi-faceted problem, and it is not
+surprising that the perspectives are not entirely consistent with one another. 
+Furthermore, those inconsistencies need not be 'blamed' on individuals.</p>
+   <p>We were left uncertain just what it would mean if we were, or were not, a "Quaker
+Centre".  Not all QCs are residential, if we understand KJ's contributions last time. 
+We are by far the largest Quaker premises in Scotland.  7VT is evidently not just a
+place which is primarily used for Meeting for Worship, and committee meetings.</p>
+   <p>The question of why we don't have outside signage arose.  When the terrace
+re-opens through to G-IV bridge, we should certainly try to get something put there
+again, with less uncertain orientation than the previous one.</p>
+   <p>How far can we go with sitting lightly to the full force of the health and
+safety, fire, food hygiene advice and/or regulations? AB has suggested to the Clerk of
+AM that we need a threshing meeting at AM level to air all the issues around the
+regulations.  We believe that Trustees have asked John Phillips to write a report on
+this.  Our testimony to truth and integrity can be a burden as well as a blessing.</p>
+   <p>Does the cooking regulation watershed apply <emph>only</emph> if food is sold, as
+opposed to being made available to the group which also does the cooking?  Is Fabric
+and Maintenance likely to know the answer?  Tom Nisbet? Ken Jobling?</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Envisaging futures</title>
+   <p>Brainstorming</p>
+   <list>
+    <item>Day-time letting only?</item>
+    <item>Quaker Centre?</item>
+    <item>Full-service Rain Forest cafe?</item>
+    <item>Quaker presence?</item>
+    <item>Eliminate regular bookings in favour of blocks?</item>
+    <item>A Quaker-only centre?</item>
+    <item>Move out of town?</item>
+    <item>Primarily seen as a physical resource for the AM, with other activities complementing that</item>
+    <item>Simplify things?  Reduce the kitchen to hot-drinks only?</item>
+    <item>Being open to young Quaker groups?</item>
+    <item>Doing (whatever we do) in <emph>our own space</emph></item>
+    <item>Being a base for outreach?</item>
+    <item>Provide courses for Quakers (and non-Quakers) -- Quaker Quest all year round</item>
+    <item>Move kitchen to ground-floor, replacing office/Bow room, and make the
+foyer a real cafe [new from Anthony Buxton via HST after the meeting]</item>
+   </list>
+   <p>Central Edinburgh LM has come to be very dependent on an attractive (that is,
+including hot soup) lunch -- what impact on that would the reduced kitchen option(s) make?</p>
+   <p>Again, does our particular situation mean that health and safety regulations
+apply fully or not when we have a youth group?</p>
+   <p>How well 'advertised' are the resources we already have here?  Different answers
+for different kinds of resources. . .  Where does this fit in?  Windows?</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Actions</title>
+   <p>HST to get the Kath Russell report, and some letting evaluation
+forms, say from 4Q2008, and circulate.  Also ask if any summary or collation has been done.</p>
+   <p>HST to ask Ken Jobling where to find the details of how food hygiene regulations
+apply depending on exactly what's happening.</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Next Meeting</title>
+   <p>Our next meeting will be at 7 Victoria Terrace at 7:30pm on Sunday 8 March.  We
+tentatively agreed on 23 March for our next meeting after that.</p>
+  </div>
+ </body>
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