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Future of 7 VT working group: Fifth meeting

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This informal summary by Henry S. Thompson, Convenor
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Held at 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh on 22 February 2009, 7:30 p.m.
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1. Attendance

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Present: Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding, + Brian Mayes, Laurie Naumann, +Eileen Schott, Henry Thompson (in the clerk's chair)

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2. Paper from Phil Lucas

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HST circulated a paper with some thoughts from PL

+

AB reminded us that we must bear in mind that all the input we've had is from +individual perspectives, on a very complex multi-faceted problem, and it is not +surprising that the perspectives are not entirely consistent with one another. +Furthermore, those inconsistencies need not be 'blamed' on individuals.

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We were left uncertain just what it would mean if we were, or were not, a "Quaker +Centre". Not all QCs are residential, if we understand KJ's contributions last time. +We are by far the largest Quaker premises in Scotland. 7VT is evidently not just a +place which is primarily used for Meeting for Worship, and committee meetings.

+

The question of why we don't have outside signage arose. When the terrace +re-opens through to G-IV bridge, we should certainly try to get something put there +again, with less uncertain orientation than the previous one.

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How far can we go with sitting lightly to the full force of the health and +safety, fire, food hygiene advice and/or regulations? AB has suggested to the Clerk of +AM that we need a threshing meeting at AM level to air all the issues around the +regulations. We believe that Trustees have asked John Phillips to write a report on +this. Our testimony to truth and integrity can be a burden as well as a blessing.

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Does the cooking regulation watershed apply only if food is sold, as +opposed to being made available to the group which also does the cooking? Is Fabric +and Maintenance likely to know the answer? Tom Nisbet? Ken Jobling?

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3. Envisaging futures

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Brainstorming

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Central Edinburgh LM has come to be very dependent on an attractive (that is, +including hot soup) lunch -- what impact on that would the reduced kitchen option(s) make?

+

Again, does our particular situation mean that health and safety regulations +apply fully or not when we have a youth group?

+

How well 'advertised' are the resources we already have here? Different answers +for different kinds of resources. . . Where does this fit in? Windows?

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4. Actions

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HST to get the Kath Russell report, and some letting evaluation +forms, say from 4Q2008, and circulate. Also ask if any summary or collation has been done.

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HST to ask Ken Jobling where to find the details of how food hygiene regulations +apply depending on exactly what's happening.

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5. Next Meeting

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Our next meeting will be at 7 Victoria Terrace at 7:30pm on Sunday 8 March. We +tentatively agreed on 23 March for our next meeting after that.

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+ Attendance +

Present: Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding, + Brian Mayes, Laurie Naumann, +Eileen Schott, Henry Thompson (in the clerk's chair)

+
+
+ Paper from Phil Lucas +

HST circulated a paper with some thoughts from PL

+

AB reminded us that we must bear in mind that all the input we've had is from +individual perspectives, on a very complex multi-faceted problem, and it is not +surprising that the perspectives are not entirely consistent with one another. +Furthermore, those inconsistencies need not be 'blamed' on individuals.

+

We were left uncertain just what it would mean if we were, or were not, a "Quaker +Centre". Not all QCs are residential, if we understand KJ's contributions last time. +We are by far the largest Quaker premises in Scotland. 7VT is evidently not just a +place which is primarily used for Meeting for Worship, and committee meetings.

+

The question of why we don't have outside signage arose. When the terrace +re-opens through to G-IV bridge, we should certainly try to get something put there +again, with less uncertain orientation than the previous one.

+

How far can we go with sitting lightly to the full force of the health and +safety, fire, food hygiene advice and/or regulations? AB has suggested to the Clerk of +AM that we need a threshing meeting at AM level to air all the issues around the +regulations. We believe that Trustees have asked John Phillips to write a report on +this. Our testimony to truth and integrity can be a burden as well as a blessing.

+

Does the cooking regulation watershed apply only if food is sold, as +opposed to being made available to the group which also does the cooking? Is Fabric +and Maintenance likely to know the answer? Tom Nisbet? Ken Jobling?

+
+
+ Envisaging futures +

Brainstorming

+ + Day-time letting only? + Quaker Centre? + Full-service Rain Forest cafe? + Quaker presence? + Eliminate regular bookings in favour of blocks? + A Quaker-only centre? + Move out of town? + Primarily seen as a physical resource for the AM, with other activities complementing that + Simplify things? Reduce the kitchen to hot-drinks only? + Being open to young Quaker groups? + Doing (whatever we do) in our own space + Being a base for outreach? + Provide courses for Quakers (and non-Quakers) -- Quaker Quest all year round + Move kitchen to ground-floor, replacing office/Bow room, and make the +foyer a real cafe [new from Anthony Buxton via HST after the meeting] + +

Central Edinburgh LM has come to be very dependent on an attractive (that is, +including hot soup) lunch -- what impact on that would the reduced kitchen option(s) make?

+

Again, does our particular situation mean that health and safety regulations +apply fully or not when we have a youth group?

+

How well 'advertised' are the resources we already have here? Different answers +for different kinds of resources. . . Where does this fit in? Windows?

+
+
+ Actions +

HST to get the Kath Russell report, and some letting evaluation +forms, say from 4Q2008, and circulate. Also ask if any summary or collation has been done.

+

HST to ask Ken Jobling where to find the details of how food hygiene regulations +apply depending on exactly what's happening.

+
+
+ Next Meeting +

Our next meeting will be at 7 Victoria Terrace at 7:30pm on Sunday 8 March. We +tentatively agreed on 23 March for our next meeting after that.

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