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7 <head>
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8 <title>Future of 7 VT working group: Eighth meeting</title>
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9 <author>This informal summary by Henry S. Thompson, Convenor</author>
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10 <date>Held at 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh on 3 April 2009, 5:30 p.m.</date>
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12 <body>
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13 <div>
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14 <title>Attendance</title>
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15 <p>Present: Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding,
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16 Brian Mayes, Laurie Naumann,
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17 Eileen Schott, Henry Thompson (in the clerk's chair)</p>
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18 <p>Prevented: Phil Lucas, Rufus Reade</p>
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19 </div>
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20 <div>
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21 <title>Real Estate Market review</title>
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22 <p>AB identified some commercial estate agents, and spoke with a local
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23 agent: his estimate for 1 large room, 2 smaller rooms, kitchen and lavatories
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24 was 150 to 200 thousand pounds, in the centre of Edinburgh.</p>
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25 <p>This would require not only selling 7VT but also at least one of the
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26 flats.</p>
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27 <p>Our current Meeting Room is 792sq ft, as is the hall.</p>
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28 <p>Not clear how quickly we could sell, or what a realistic cost for a
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29 building that would suit us would be, that is, not clear that we could get a
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30 building with an 800sq ft room for 200 thousand.</p>
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31 <p>If we remain a central meeting, we need at least that much space, as the
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32 Meeting Room is full on busy Sundays. If we are split up, what does that do to
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33 our community?</p>
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34 <p>ES looked at out-of-town 'units', semi-industrial, no costings retained.
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35 Windows are an issue, and of course conversion costs would be high.</p>
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36 </div>
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37 <div>
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38 <title>Comparison with other meeting venue rentals</title>
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39 <p>ES looked at our rental charges and those of some other church hall
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40 rentals in the area. The figures look broadly comparable to ours, so there is
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41 not much scope for raising prices to get more income. ES was impressed by the
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42 quality of the website the Meeting House uses to present itself to potential
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43 renters. Having a manager on site also meant our response time was much better
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44 than most of the other sites.</p>
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45 </div>
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46 <div>
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47 <title>Status for form distribution/collection</title>
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48 <list type="defn">
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49 <item term="Financial experts">LN waiting for review of his proposed
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50 questions, will interview individuals.</item>
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51 <item term="Lettings comparison">ES has done this, see above.</item>
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52 <item term="Quaker groups">MH has distributed a questionnaire, and has
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53 between 1/3 and 1/2 of them back</item>
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54 <item term="Central Edinburgh">Forms were available at the rise of meeting
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55 on Sunday 29th March, 25 replies in hand.</item>
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56 <item term="Midweek meeting">AB has given out some forms, more to go out
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57 next Wed.</item>
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58 <item term="Local meetings">No news from PL</item>
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59 <item term="MH staff">No news from PL</item>
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60 </list>
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61 <p>We'll try to have tabulated responses by our next meeting, at which point
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62 we can combine across different groups</p>
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63 </div>
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64 <div>
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65 <title>Next steps and next time</title>
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66 <p>We agreed that dividing up the writing work makes sense, and HST agreed
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67 to try to move us forward on the draft table of contents so that we can begin
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68 to agree who will contribute what writing. HST said that he envisages having
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69 both a report on our work, covering all the information we've gathered,
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70 probably quite substantial, and a much shorter 'executive summary'.</p>
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71 <p>What about soliciting forward-looking input from various
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72 constituencies? Time is short, but we need to give people an opportunity to
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73 contribute to the vision.</p>
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74 <p>We will have two open meetings to give people the opportunity
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75 to share their visions of the future with us: 3 p.m. on 3 May and 7:30pm on 4 May.</p>
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76 <p>ES shared her idea of a public participation (experiential) means of
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77 presenting our findings and helping the AM to understand our findings, maybe at
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78 AM on 6 June, or afterwards.</p>
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79 </div>
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80 <div>
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81 <title>Actions review and new actions</title>
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82 <p>HST to get the Kath Russell report [<name>done</name>]</p>
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83 <p>HST to ask John Phillips for an electronic version of his notes for us [<name>done</name>]</p>
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84 <p>HST to ask Ken Jobling where to find the details of how food hygiene regulations
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85 apply depending on exactly what's happening. [<name>overtaken</name>]</p>
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86 <p>HST to invite Mark Hutcheson to one of our meetings at his earliest
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87 convenience, as Convenor of AM Trustees. [<name>done</name>]</p>
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88 <p>ES to get some costs of out-of-town units</p>
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89 <p>HST to get publicicity out about the vision input meetings.</p>
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90 </div>
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91 <div>
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92 <title>Next Meeting</title>
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93 <p>Our next meeting will be at 7 Victoria Terrace at 5:30pm on Friday 24 April. We
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94 tentatively agreed on Friday 1 May 5:30pm for our next meeting after that.</p>
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95 </div>
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96 </body>
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97 </doc>
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