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author | Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> |
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date | Mon, 10 Mar 2025 17:19:57 +0000 |
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--- a/brian_2025-03-03.txt Mon Mar 10 16:52:06 2025 +0000 +++ b/brian_2025-03-03.txt Mon Mar 10 17:19:57 2025 +0000 @@ -101,22 +101,7 @@ great job on Question 1, and it gets better all the time, but that has nothing to do with Question 2: for that I have the Church"] -The ideological claim wrt the s-r is that it's complete and sufficient. - -This (that these forms of thinking are distinct) is no longer a -tenable division. [I.e. the compatibilist is mistaken] - -These two sets of world-views are no longer tenably opposed. Because -people are trying to corral a whole bunch of topics into the scientific -ones. - -There are many topics which classically had been thought to fall into -the [r-s] category which are being explored in something like the -scientific one. So, bottom-line, the whole distinction needs to be -rethought. - ------End of section----- - +>>>>>>>>>>side tracks???>>>>>>>>> Is there anything like a consensus/received wisdom as to what those two forms of understanding are? On the science side, people might assume that it's causal explanations (mechanism). The (r-s?) critique @@ -138,7 +123,57 @@ [HST: what's the other one?] [HST: write a two-page version? A skeleton] +<<<<<<<<<<end of side tracks>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +The ideological claim wrt the s-r is that it's complete and sufficient. + +This (that these forms of thinking are distinct) is no longer a +tenable division. [I.e. the compatibilist is mistaken] + +These two sets of world-views are no longer tenably opposed. Because +people are trying to corral a whole bunch of topics into the scientific +ones. + +There are many topics which classically had been thought to fall into +the [r-s] category which are being explored in something like the +scientific one. So, bottom-line, the whole distinction needs to be +rethought. + +-----End of new section one----- + +Next would be an informal account of the structure of intentionality? + +If we look at that the structure of intentionality in light of +physical science it will turn out that the intentional stuff has +properties that are associated with [r-s]. So the essentially +infinite structure and complexity of the world, the fact that +descriptions are partial and inadequate. + +Or, [BCS] has spent the last 50 years trying to formulate a theory of +intentionality compatible with the physical sciences, but it turns out +that the character of intentionality that you get if you do that has +many properties that have classically been assumed to lie within +[r-s]. + +Or, the story [BCS] is trying to tell here is _BCS's_ world-view. +It's not necessarily anyone else's. What is it? + + a) A story about intentionality that's compatible with physics; + + b) A recognition that if this is the character of intentionality, + and if we are currently using it, in other words, go + ... + What does the world look like from within that view of + intentionality? + +OR + + 1) This is a place where BCS can state / give voice to his view of + intentionality; + + 2) There's a kind of first-person perspective which he's shifting + to, as opposed to a third-person perspective. Perhaps not + necessary, but it's at least lurking... ---------------- For discussion with Jill: