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--- a/etc/MAILINGLISTS Mon Aug 13 11:19:22 2007 +0200 +++ b/etc/MAILINGLISTS Mon Aug 13 11:20:41 2007 +0200 @@ -1,112 +1,1206 @@ - XEmacs Electronic Mailing Lists. Last Modified: 1999-11-08 - -XEmacs has its own mailing lists and newsgroup which are distinct from -the FSF GNU Emacs mailing lists and newsgroups. The mailing lists are: + XEmacs Electronic Mailing Lists. Last Modified: 1997-01-13 -xemacs@xemacs.org comp.emacs.xemacs bi-directional gateway. - - xemacs is an open list for discussion and bug reporting for - XEmacs. This mailing list is bi-directionally gatewayed with the - USENET newsgroup comp.emacs.xemacs. - -xemacs-announce@xemacs.org XEmacs Announcements. - - xemacs-announce is a read-only, low volume list for announcements - concerning the XEmacs project and new releases of the XEmacs - software. - -xemacs-beta@xemacs.org XEmacs Beta Testers. - - xemacs-beta is an open list for bug reports and general - communication about beta versions of XEmacs. +XEmacs has its own mailing list and newsgroup which are distinct from +the FSF GNU Emacs mailing lists and newsgroups. The mailing list is: -xemacs-build-reports@xemacs.org XEmacs Build Report Submissions. - - xemacs-build-reports is an open list for submission of build-reports - on beta versions of XEmacs. For information on what the - build-reports should contain, please see the `etc/BETA' file which - is included in each beta distribution. - -xemacs-cvs@xemacs.org XEmacs CVS Commit Notices. + xemacs@xemacs.org For reporting all bugs in XEmacs, including bugs + in the compilation and installation procedures. + Also for all random questions and conversation + about XEmacs. - xemacs-cvs is a read-only list for notices and information on what - has been committed to the XEmacs CVS trees, by whom, and for - what. (For more information on the XEmacs CVS Archive: - http://cvs.xemacs.org/.) - -xemacs-mule@xemacs.org XEmacs International Extensions. - - xemacs-mule is an open mailing list for discussion of International - extensions to XEmacs including Mule, XIM, I18n issues, etc, and is - not confined to developmental issues. This list is not restricted - to English, postings in all languages are welcome. - -xemacs-nt@xemacs.org XEmacs on Windows NT/98/95. +This mailing list is bidirectionally gatewayed into the USENET newsgroup +comp.emacs.xemacs. - xemacs-nt is a developer's only mailing list and is intended for - people who wish to work actively on the porting of XEmacs to - Microsoft Windows NT and Microsoft Windows 98/95. - -xemacs-patches@xemacs.org XEmacs Patch Submissions. +To be added or removed from this mailing list, send mail to +xemacs-request@xemacs.org (If it is possible for you to read the +messages via the newsgroup, we would prefer that; the fewer people there +are on the mailing list, the less trouble it is to maintain.) - xemacs-patches is an open, moderated list for submission of patches - to the XEmacs distribution and its packages. Anyone may subscribe or - submit to xemacs-patches, but all submissions are reviewed by the - list moderator before they are distributed to the list. Discussion - is not appropriate on xemacs-patches. - -xemacs-users-ja@xemacs.org XEmacs (Japanese). - - xemacs-users-ja is an open list for discussion and bug reporting for - XEmacs. Japanese is the preferred language of discussion. It is not - gated to comp.emacs.xemacs or the xemacs list. For fastest - response, bugs not specifically related to Japanese or Mule features - should be reported on xemacs (in English). - -xemacs-beta-ja@xemacs.org XEmacs Beta (Japanese). +Please do NOT send messages about problems with XEmacs to the FSF GNU +Emacs newsgroups and mailing lists (listed below) unless you are sure +that the problem you are reporting is a problem with both versions of +GNU Emacs. People who aren't subscribed to the XEmacs mailing list most +likely are not interested in hearing about problems with it. - xemacs-beta-ja is an open list for bug reports and general - communication about beta versions of XEmacs, especially features - related to Mule and Japanese-handling. 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