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+  <title>Future of 7 VT working group: Eighth meeting</title>
+  <author>This informal summary by Henry S. Thompson, Convenor</author>
+  <date>Held at 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh on 3 April 2009, 5:30 p.m.</date>
+ </head>
+ <body>
+  <div>
+   <title>Attendance</title>
+   <p>Present: Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding,
+Brian Mayes, Laurie Naumann,
+Eileen Schott, Henry Thompson (in the clerk's chair)</p>
+   <p>Prevented: Phil Lucas, Rufus Reade</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Real Estate Market review</title>
+   <p>AB identified some commercial estate agents, and spoke with a local
+agent: his estimate for 1 large room, 2 smaller rooms, kitchen and lavatories
+was 150 to 200 thousand pounds, in the centre of Edinburgh.</p>
+   <p>This would require not only selling 7VT but also at least one of the
+flats.</p>
+   <p>Our current Meeting Room is 792sq ft, as is the hall.</p>
+   <p>Not clear how quickly we could sell, or what a realistic cost for a
+building that would suit us would be, that is, not clear that we could get a
+building with an 800sq ft room for 200 thousand.</p>
+   <p>If we remain a central meeting, we need at least that much space, as the
+Meeting Room is full on busy Sundays.  If we are split up, what does that do to
+our community?</p>
+   <p>ES looked at out-of-town 'units', semi-industrial, no costings retained.
+Windows are an issue, and of course conversion costs would be high.</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Comparison with other meeting venue rentals</title>
+   <p>ES looked at our rental charges and those of some other church hall
+rentals in the area.  The figures look broadly comparable to ours, so there is
+not much scope for raising prices to get more income.  ES was impressed by the
+quality of the website the Meeting House uses to present itself to potential
+renters.  Having a manager on site also meant our response time was much better
+than most of the other sites.</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Status for form distribution/collection</title>
+   <list type="defn">
+    <item term="Financial experts">LN waiting for review of his proposed
+questions, will interview individuals.</item>
+    <item term="Lettings comparison">ES has done this, see above.</item>
+    <item term="Quaker groups">MH has distributed a questionnaire, and has
+between 1/3 and 1/2 of them back</item>
+    <item term="Central Edinburgh">Forms were available at the rise of meeting
+on Sunday 29th March, 25 replies in hand.</item>
+    <item term="Midweek meeting">AB has given out some forms, more to go out
+next Wed.</item>
+    <item term="Local meetings">No news from PL</item>
+    <item term="MH staff">No news from PL</item>
+   </list>
+   <p>We'll try to have tabulated responses by our next meeting, at which point
+we can combine across different groups</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Next steps and next time</title>
+   <p>We agreed that dividing up the writing work makes sense, and HST agreed
+to try to move us forward on the draft table of contents so that we can begin
+to agree who will contribute what writing.  HST said that he envisages having
+both a report on our work, covering all the information we've gathered,
+probably quite substantial, and a much shorter 'executive summary'.</p>
+   <p>What about soliciting forward-looking input from various
+constituencies?  Time is short, but we need to give people an opportunity to
+contribute to the vision.</p>
+   <p>We will have two open meetings to give people the opportunity
+to share their visions of the future with us: 3 p.m. on 3 May and 7:30pm on 4 May.</p>
+   <p>ES shared her idea of a public participation (experiential) means of
+presenting our findings and helping the AM to understand our findings, maybe at
+AM on 6 June, or afterwards.</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Actions review and new actions</title>
+   <p>HST to get the Kath Russell report [<name>done</name>]</p>
+   <p>HST to ask John Phillips for an electronic version of his notes for us [<name>done</name>]</p>
+   <p>HST to ask Ken Jobling where to find the details of how food hygiene regulations
+apply depending on exactly what's happening. [<name>overtaken</name>]</p>
+   <p>HST to invite Mark Hutcheson to one of our meetings at his earliest
+convenience, as Convenor of AM Trustees. [<name>done</name>]</p>
+   <p>ES to get some costs of out-of-town units</p>
+   <p>HST to get publicicity out about the vision input meetings.</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Next Meeting</title>
+   <p>Our next meeting will be at 7 Victoria Terrace at 5:30pm on Friday 24 April. We
+tentatively agreed on Friday 1 May 5:30pm for our next meeting after that.</p>
+  </div>
+ </body>
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