changeset 131:253b2a382e40

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author ht
date Sat, 07 Apr 2018 09:42:26 -0400
parents a3482ba94d8f
children 550f9806fd96
files Sufferings/2018-04-07/notes.txt
diffstat 1 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) [+]
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--- a/Sufferings/2018-04-07/notes.txt	Sat Apr 07 08:06:02 2018 -0400
+++ b/Sufferings/2018-04-07/notes.txt	Sat Apr 07 09:42:26 2018 -0400
@@ -53,14 +53,20 @@
 Sufferings without any detail on how this to be carried out leaves a
 very significant gap and risks simply recreating the SG under another
 name.  Actually deciding to lay the SG down without a clear picture of
-what's going to take it place seems premature.
+what's going to take it place seems premature, and was in the end not
+supported by MfS, which _did_ support the recommendation for "a
+specially convened meeting/meetings of the clerks of BYMSG, QPSWCC,
+ESP sub-committee, QLCC, QSC, BYM Trustees, the Board of Friends House
+Hospitality, MfS and all members of Management Meeting," after which
+we will need to come back to the question of the future for SG and/or
+the form of its replacement.
 
 The need for a clearer articulation of the largely unspoken spiritual
 basis for the Commitment was raised.
 
 The oft-remarked tension resurfaced between a feeling on the part of
 many that we ought to put sustainability at the centre of our efforts
-and a recognition that many others who don't seem to be interested in
+and a recognition that many others don't seem to be interested in
 doing so.
 
   Some quotes from the floor:
@@ -68,14 +74,28 @@
   "It's not surprising that we struggle, and blame each other, and get
    stuck." (Laurie Michaelis)
 
-  "This is the biggest thing we've ever tried to deal with."
+  "This is the biggest thing we've ever tried to deal with." (Laurie Michaelis)
 
   "Giving responsibility but no authority to working groups [such as
-   SG] is Kafkaesque, not Quakerly"
+   SG] is Kafkaesque, not Quakerly" (Lis Burch)
 
   "How do we connect a BYM Concern with [the priorities and funding
    choices] of the centrally-managed work]." (Lis Burch)
 
   "What is it that has caused us to try to do this and fail 5 times?"
+   (Peter Morris)
 
 [Testimonies C'tee to Sufferings in 2007?]
+
+*Restoring Integrity to the Public Sphere*
+
+We were asked to consider a concern from an AM on this topic, which
+asked whether BYM should be a "public champion of truth"?
+
+We've had a testimony to truth since the 17th century, but the more
+recent, complex, history to our recent engagement with this issue
+begins in 1990 with a concern which created a "Truth and Integrity in
+Public Affairs" programme.  This was laid down in 2004.
+
+We agreed to ask for input on this from Area Meetings, regarding both
+difficulties experienced and actions being taken.