# HG changeset patch
# User Henry S. Thompson
It's not short, and there's an even longer appendix of background - detail, so here's a summary:
+ detail, so this section provides a summary. +In their cover letter for the draft GD sent to SESAM Trustees on
+2024-01-06, the
"The Options for Scotland group [proposes] that we form a+single + charity and that we form asingle body . The idea of a single + body clearly needs more work to discern what this might look + like. It will take time. That idea is not part of what we are + asking you about here." (emphasis added)
Not including a story about "the body" (which I'll call "the church" for +now) is the primary source of the problems the GD presents for SESAM. Until +this is fixed I recommend that:
-SESAM Trustees should advise SESAM that SESAM
should not agree to joiningQiS without substantial changes to the governing document, @@ -27,44 +37,18 @@ for Britain Yearly Meeting (the charity).An updated GD needs to make explicit provision for the possibility of SESAM-the-church continuing
as an Area Meeting while laying - down SESAM-the-charity, drawing on the proposed approach to - preserving AMs in Wales. There must be clarity on SESAM-the-church's + down SESAM-the-charity. There must be clarity on SESAM-the-church's status with respect toQiS-the-church and thus with respect to the trustees ofQiS-the-charity .
I'll start by identifying the problems I see with the GD, and go on to +
In what follows I'll start by identifying the problems I see with the GD, and go on to
outline the kind of changes I think would improve it, to the point
where SESAM would support the creation of the
In their cover letter for the draft GD sent to SESAM Trustees on
-2024-01-06, the
"The Options for Scotland group [proposes] that we form a-single - charity and that we form asingle body . The idea of a single - body clearly needs more work to discern what this might look - like. It will take time. That idea is not part of what we are - asking you about here." (emphasis added)
Above I used "
Making a distinction between the
The GD uses "Quakers in Scotland" for both of these, without +
The GD uses "Quakers in Scotland" for both the charity and the church, without ever explicitly acknowledging that they are distinct. Sometimes context makes clear which they are referring to, but not always.
There are two problems here:
@@ -74,24 +58,19 @@ describes the matter before the Meeting once as "a single Quaker body" and once as "a single Quaker charity / body";These problems arise in large part because, perfectly understandably,
-
Indeed SESAM-the-charity's own governing document is also based on a -similar, more recent, template for non-incorporated Area Meetings from -Quaker Life -(https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/governing-document-for-am-cc-approved-11-2022-final), -and so also suffers from these problems.
-But
But
They are problems because the existing Area Meetings' responsibilities and activities as a worshiping body, governed by Meetings for Worship -for Church Affairs of their membership as set out in QF&P, are largely +for Church Affairs of their membership as set out in Quaker Faith and Practice (QF&P), are largely distinct from their responsibilities and activities as a charity, governed by trustees. The former consist of, for example, the spiritual and pastoral care of their members and their witness to their communities, grounded in our @@ -99,34 +78,62 @@ maitaining the Area Meeting's legal status and financial well-being. As for Britain Yearly Meeting, whose succinct self-characterisation recently has been "A simple church supported by a simple charity", so -it should be for Area Meetings. Quaker Faith and Practice has useful +it should be for Area Meetings. QF&P has useful guidance on this relationship throughout section 15. 15.03 is particularly relevant:
"The law may assume that authority for determining action passes to the trustees and the meeting may choose to do this. However, under Gospel Order, the ultimate authority will still lie with the gathered meeting."
-This needs to be fixed
The reasons these problems need to be fixed
More generally, the current lack of clarity on the governance
-structure of
A clear separation between the church and the charity is a simple first step towards the necessary clarifications.
+* Indeed SESAM-the-charity's own governing document is also based on a +similar, more recent, template for non-incorporated Area Meetings from +Quaker Life +(https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/governing-document-for-am-cc-approved-11-2022-final), +and so also suffers from these problems.
+East of Scotland AM and North of Scotland AM's governing documents are also based on the non-incorporated Area Meeting template. Stewardship of North of Scotland Quaker Trust is identified as a responsibility of NSAM Trustees in their Terms of Reference. West of Scotland's document is shorter, and perhaps based on an early template, compared to the -others.
For clarity, hereafter
+I'll call
The GD should make a clear distinction between the
The GD should make it explicit that in the first instance
the four Area Meetings, as well as General Meeting for Scotland, will
@@ -144,7 +151,7 @@
are best served in smaller constituencies that the
Accordingly, the GD should make clear that for those things
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