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Report to Area Meeting from the Future of Victoria Terrace Working Group

DRAFT: contains contributions received through 17/5

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Madeleine Harding, Phil Lucas, Eileen Schott, Henry S. Thompson,
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18 May 2009
+
Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding, Phil Lucas, Brian Mayes, + Eileen Schott, Henry S. Thompson
+
31 May 2009
@@ -454,11 +455,67 @@
  • Own premises (build/refit/share)
  • Hire premises (Sole tenant/share)
  • +

    One of the prime motivations for leaving Stafford Street was that though central it was not 'visible' to the public; it had no lettings of rooms, no display windows and no involvement in the Festival. These would therefore be looked for in any alternative

    +

    premises.

    +

    If we decide to sell Victoria Terrace in order to buy, lease or + even share somewhere else it would probably be necessary to sell also the two flats. [see sections ]

    +
      +
    1. Minimum accommodation for our own use only would be: +
        +
      • 1 Meeting Room
      • +
      • 1 Children's Room
      • +
      • Library
      • +
      • Kitchen (for heating up only)
      • +
      • Lavatories
      • +
      • Office (?)
    2. +
    3. Preferably, for our own needs and possible lettings or sharing, +we would be looking for: +
        +
      • 2 Meeting Rooms
      • +
      • 2 Children's Rooms
      • +
      • Kitchen (for cooking)
      • +
      • Library
      • +
      • Lavatories
      • +
      • 2 Committee rooms
      • +
      • Office
      • +
    4. +
    +

    A central location would be in the area bounded by High Street to Queen Street +and Queensferry Street. to Leith Street.

    +

    Alternatively, we might have more that one Meeting House to replace Victoria Terrace; +this would mean no central Edinburgh Meeting. Possible areas would include +Portobello, Trinity/Granton, Leith Walk/London Road or around Cameron Toll and the +Commonwealth Pool.

    +

    If we could find no suitable venue for our exclusive use we might share with, say, +7th Day Adventists, a play group, an Open Door or community hall that was not required +on a Sunday.

    +

    However, it would be necessary for us to be the 'chief' occupants in order that we can +arrange mid-week or evening meetings, and have some say over publicity displays and +lettings. We would wish to be in charge of lettings, including festival events +such as poetry readings, plays, small musical events, and so on. We would not have a +café, but might offer light refreshments and have an exhibition on walls other +those of the Meeting Room.

    5.2. The Vision

    What do we want: summary of options, from our discussions and open meetings

    +

    From the returned questionnaires and the discussions we have had it would seem that the +majority of users of the premises would prefer to remain in Victoria Terrace if this is +financially possible.

    +

    It is felt that we should be in the centre of Edinburgh for a number of reasons, such as the +presence of the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish offices of financial, church and +corporate bodies, such as Christian Aid. This would enable us to present our Quaker +witness to these bodies and to the general public, including the large numbers of tourists +and visitors to the city. However, it cannot be assumed that Friends in Scotland outwith +Edinburgh would be happy to recognize us as a Scottish Quaker Centre. Indeed, there +are Friends in the Area Meeting who do not have any feeling of 'ownership' of 7 +Victoria Terrace nor any sense of involvement in its activities. It is also the case that not +all members of Edinburgh Central welcome the disruption and disturbance arising from +our Festival activities.

    +

    Overall, we feel that most people have been positive about staying in Victoria Terrace +because it is central and visible, available and open. The doubts are about finance and +the Festival.

    5.3. Conclusions

    diff -r 2921dc0465f3 -r eb6844b9d4a4 7vt/report.xml --- a/7vt/report.xml Mon May 18 16:55:12 2009 -0400 +++ b/7vt/report.xml Sun May 31 17:30:05 2009 -0400 @@ -5,8 +5,9 @@ Report to Area Meeting from the Future of Victoria Terrace Working Group <emph color="red">DRAFT: contains contributions received through 17/5</emph> - Madeleine Harding, Phil Lucas, Eileen Schott, Henry S. Thompson, - 18 May 2009 + Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding, Phil Lucas, Brian Mayes, + Eileen Schott, Henry S. Thompson + 31 May 2009
    @@ -430,11 +431,67 @@ Own premises (build/refit/share) Hire premises (Sole tenant/share) +

    One of the prime motivations for leaving Stafford Street was that though central it was not 'visible' to the public; it had no lettings of rooms, no display windows and no involvement in the Festival. These would therefore be looked for in any alternative

    +

    premises.

    +

    If we decide to sell Victoria Terrace in order to buy, lease or + even share somewhere else it would probably be necessary to sell also the two flats. [see sections ]

    + +Minimum accommodation for our own use only would be: + +1 Meeting Room +1 Children's Room +Library +Kitchen (for heating up only) +Lavatories +Office (?) +Preferably, for our own needs and possible lettings or sharing, +we would be looking for: + +2 Meeting Rooms +2 Children's Rooms +Kitchen (for cooking) +Library +Lavatories +2 Committee rooms + Office + + +

    A central location would be in the area bounded by High Street to Queen Street +and Queensferry Street. to Leith Street.

    +

    Alternatively, we might have more that one Meeting House to replace Victoria Terrace; +this would mean no central Edinburgh Meeting. Possible areas would include +Portobello, Trinity/Granton, Leith Walk/London Road or around Cameron Toll and the +Commonwealth Pool.

    +

    If we could find no suitable venue for our exclusive use we might share with, say, +7th Day Adventists, a play group, an Open Door or community hall that was not required +on a Sunday.

    +

    However, it would be necessary for us to be the 'chief' occupants in order that we can +arrange mid-week or evening meetings, and have some say over publicity displays and +lettings. We would wish to be in charge of lettings, including festival events +such as poetry readings, plays, small musical events, and so on. We would not have a +café, but might offer light refreshments and have an exhibition on walls other +those of the Meeting Room.

    The Vision

    What do we want: summary of options, from our discussions and open meetings

    +

    From the returned questionnaires and the discussions we have had it would seem that the +majority of users of the premises would prefer to remain in Victoria Terrace if this is +financially possible.

    +

    It is felt that we should be in the centre of Edinburgh for a number of reasons, such as the +presence of the Scottish Parliament and the Scottish offices of financial, church and +corporate bodies, such as Christian Aid. This would enable us to present our Quaker +witness to these bodies and to the general public, including the large numbers of tourists +and visitors to the city. However, it cannot be assumed that Friends in Scotland outwith +Edinburgh would be happy to recognize us as a Scottish Quaker Centre. Indeed, there +are Friends in the Area Meeting who do not have any feeling of 'ownership' of 7 +Victoria Terrace nor any sense of involvement in its activities. It is also the case that not +all members of Edinburgh Central welcome the disruption and disturbance arising from +our Festival activities.

    +

    Overall, we feel that most people have been positive about staying in Victoria Terrace +because it is central and visible, available and open. The doubts are about finance and +the Festival.

    Conclusions