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In August and October of 2008, South East Scotland Area Meeting "considered the history and prospects for the Quaker Meeting House at 7 @@ -62,7 +72,7 @@
This report has three main sections, organised chronologically, covering the history of the Quaker ownership of 7 Victoria Terrace, its current situation, and a range of possibilities for the future. These are preceded by -a brief 'executive summary' of our work and its conclusions, and followed by a +a brief ‘executive summary’ of our work and its conclusions, and followed by a collection of background material.
Although in the end it is our judgement that some options make more sense going forward than others, we have not felt that it was our place @@ -75,7 +85,7 @@ months of 2009. Over th course of thos meetings we invited a number of people to join us to share their particular perspectives on the matter:
[more, or leave it at that?]
We moved to 7 Victoria Terrace from premises at 28 Stafford Street @@ -122,7 +132,7 @@
A property developer had approached the Meeting several times offering to purchase the building on very attractive terms, and after a series of Meetings for Business and threshing sessions the Preparative and Monthly Meetings agreed to the move, even though -we didn't know at the time we left where our new home would be. In the end we spent +we didn’t know at the time we left where our new home would be. In the end we spent nearly two years at Gilles College in Marchmont, first while we found a new home, and then while it was refurbished for us.
What have we gained from the move?
@@ -151,7 +161,7 @@There is space for a good-sized library.
-The children's space is improved although +
The children’s space is improved although the crèche is rather dark and small and out of the way but other spaces are quite flexible.
@@ -170,21 +180,21 @@ our young people involved with Friends we need to care for and nurture them. 7 Victoria Terrace is an ideal place to do this.The building was in quite a poor state when it was purchased by the Monthly Meeting. Apart from the internal work which gave us the basic rooms layout, substantial repair work had to be undertaken to repair badly weathered sandstone on the exterior and some roof repairs were also necessary. Urgent repair to stonework was necessary in 2007–8 to make the building safe and opportunity was taken, while the scaffolding was in place, to do general stonework improvement with a view to preventing the need for further such work for the next 20 years or so.
There follows a description of each room, working down from the top.
@@ -235,7 +245,7 @@-There are two mezzanine floors (not shown in the plans) in a flat-roofed extension behind the main building. The upper of these, above first floor level, houses toilets. The women's toilets, which house two lavatory cubicles and two wash hand-basins, were upgraded in 1996. There is one small lavatory room for men. The lower floor has one toilet room with a single lavatory and hand-basin (and for much of the 20 years housed the washing machine). Adjacent to this is a small room, known as the teenagers' room during early Quaker occupation, when there were a number of teenagers in the Meeting. This is now known as Room 5 and is used mostly for one-to-one meetings; it can accommodate only four or five at most. +There are two mezzanine floors (not shown in the plans) in a flat-roofed extension behind the main building. The upper of these, above first floor level, houses toilets. The women’s toilets, which house two lavatory cubicles and two wash hand-basins, were upgraded in 1996. There is one small lavatory room for men. The lower floor has one toilet room with a single lavatory and hand-basin (and for much of the 20 years housed the washing machine). Adjacent to this is a small room, known as the teenagers’ room during early Quaker occupation, when there were a number of teenagers in the Meeting. This is now known as Room 5 and is used mostly for one-to-one meetings; it can accommodate only four or five at most.
A tiled passage leads from the foyer past doors to under-stair storage and a small -cleaner's cupboard and on to a utility area with +cleaner’s cupboard and on to a utility area with Belfast sink, in which the washing machine is now fitted. Off this is an accessible toilet and a small shower room, which has in the past been used by residential groups but which is more commonly used for further storage.
-The managers' office, situated between the foyer and the Bow Room, is +The managers’ office, situated between the foyer and the Bow Room, is quite small, with room for a single person to work. It has a timber-barrelled ceiling installed in the 1950s, when this style was in vogue.
The net result of all this is that of the six flats on the stair, one is owned -by the Boys' Brigade, three are in private (Quaker) hands, and two are owned by the +by the Boys’ Brigade, three are in private (Quaker) hands, and two are owned by the Area Meeting:
The principal reasons which led to the decision to purchase the Victoria Terrace building were:
Quaker use of the building developed well in the early years while Ian and -Lise were wardens, as did community use. A group, which included Lise and Ian, saw from the beginning the opportunity offered by the August Festival Fringe to develop the use and profile of the building. Lise was an able vegetarian/vegan cook. She and Ian had `green' concerns and it was decided to run the Library as the `Rainforest Cafe' for two weeks during the Fringe, raising money for rainforest charities. The Hall and Meeting Room were offered for exhibition and concert use concurrent with this. +Lise were wardens, as did community use. A group, which included Lise and Ian, saw from the beginning the opportunity offered by the August Festival Fringe to develop the use and profile of the building. Lise was an able vegetarian/vegan cook. She and Ian had ‘green’ concerns and it was decided to run the Library as the ‘Rainforest Cafe’ for two weeks during the Fringe, raising money for rainforest charities. The Hall and Meeting Room were offered for exhibition and concert use concurrent with this.
After Ian and then Lise left, Mark and Anna Twinam-Cauchi, a student couple, were wardens for a short while. When they left, a rota of volunteer keyholders was set up to open up, service organisations renting rooms and welcome callers. A support group of Friends, which included Archie Campbell and Jennie Nielson was put in place, with the specific purpose of ensuring a Quaker profile for the building. By 1994, they were running a rota to staff the building on Wednesdays to greet visitors, advise any who had problems and explain Quakerism.
@@ -322,7 +332,7 @@Income from lettings in 1994 was about £14,000. Given stable management and the resulting improved standards of service offered to users, this grew quite rapidly with increasing use of the building. As lettings increased, there were some small tensions regarding Quaker use during the week. Quaker committees had been accustomed to turning up, sometimes without booking, and finding there was a room available. They now found they had to book and then had to book longer and longer in advance to ensure a room was free. An attempt was made to solve this problem by setting the Library apart one evening each week for Quaker use, but this (unsurprisingly) failed—the evening so reserved seldom suited the committee that wanted it—so committees and groups which were unable to plan sufficiently in advance became accustomed to meeting in homes.
-A two tier letting charge system has been developed over the years, with a lower charge for charitable and grass-roots groups and higher charges for local and national government and commercial groups and classes. There has been some measure of negotiation on charges at the discretion of the wardens/managers, with, for example, new grass-roots groups being given use below the charitable rate until they became established. An eye has been kept on rates charged by comparable buildings in the neighbourhood and there has been co-operation on this, especially with Augustine United and St Columba's-by-the-Castle. The busyness of the building increased steadily until, for several years, it was about as full as it reasonably could be, from +
A two tier letting charge system has been developed over the years, with a lower charge for charitable and grass-roots groups and higher charges for local and national government and commercial groups and classes. There has been some measure of negotiation on charges at the discretion of the wardens/managers, with, for example, new grass-roots groups being given use below the charitable rate until they became established. An eye has been kept on rates charged by comparable buildings in the neighbourhood and there has been co-operation on this, especially with Augustine United and St Columba’s-by-the-Castle. The busyness of the building increased steadily until, for several years, it was about as full as it reasonably could be, from 9 am until 10 pm @@ -330,7 +340,7 @@
Facilities and equipment have been steadily developed over the years, with digital projector, laptop computer and wireless internet availability now added to the familiar flipcharts, TV and DVD player and overhead projectors.
-Increase in the use of the building necessitated an increase in staff and it was particularly important to ensure continuity of standards of service during the managers' absence on holidays and days off. There has been a deputy warden/manager appointed for the past 12 years or so and this has usually been a residential post, with the appointee occupying the smaller flat. Deputy managers have included Andy May, Doug Kline, Finn Pollard, Philip Davies, Mary Woodward and Tom Nisbet. Additional staffing, all paid, has been provided by members of the Meeting and by students, also usually attenders or members. The role title of the wardens was changed to managers some 7 or 8 years ago, this job title more accurately reflecting the managerial responsibility the post now carries. +
Increase in the use of the building necessitated an increase in staff and it was particularly important to ensure continuity of standards of service during the managers’ absence on holidays and days off. There has been a deputy warden/manager appointed for the past 12 years or so and this has usually been a residential post, with the appointee occupying the smaller flat. Deputy managers have included Andy May, Doug Kline, Finn Pollard, Philip Davies, Mary Woodward and Tom Nisbet. Additional staffing, all paid, has been provided by members of the Meeting and by students, also usually attenders or members. The role title of the wardens was changed to managers some 7 or 8 years ago, this job title more accurately reflecting the managerial responsibility the post now carries.
At the time that Phil and Pat Lucas were appointed, Marion Morton was clerk of General Meeting for Scotland. She was also part of the group providing a Quaker presence in 7 Victoria Terrace and she combined these two roles by doing her -General Meeting work in the Meeting House Office one day a week, providing cover for a wardens' day off. +General Meeting work in the Meeting House Office one day a week, providing cover for a wardens’ day off.
A General Meeting group was then looking at developing the Quaker base and presence in Scotland, including the appointment of an administrative assistant to @@ -358,13 +368,13 @@
There was concern in some other Scottish Area Meetings about Scottish Quaker affairs becoming too Edinburgh-based, which may have -contributed to the end of Quaker Link Scotland's short life, but the +contributed to the end of Quaker Link Scotland’s short life, but the fatal blow was that, when the paid administrative assistant post was advertised, the successful candidate lived on the Moray coast and preferred to work from home. The General Meeting clerkship at the -same time moved away from the South East. When Pat and Phil Lucas's +same time moved away from the South East. When Pat and Phil Lucas’s outreach appointments came to their end, it was no longer appropriate -to send enquirers' packs to Scottish enquirers from the 7 Victoria Terrace office, (although they continued to do so for a year or two on a voluntary basis). The last vestiges of Quaker Link +to send enquirers’ packs to Scottish enquirers from the 7 Victoria Terrace office, (although they continued to do so for a year or two on a voluntary basis). The last vestiges of Quaker Link Scotland thus disappeared.
@@ -376,7 +386,7 @@ it into a 65 seat black-box theatre, for the first time in August 1995. Use of the theatre that year was dominated by one theatre group, which was reluctant to share facilities with others. Setting up the theatre in this way involved considerable hire costs, so the Committee decided for 1996 to take firmer control and, in order to recoup hire costs, to run for three weeks. Use of the space developed over subsequent years until there were up to six shows per day, six days each week, with the café now open also for three weeks. The increased staffing this required was provided almost entirely from volunteers, many of them Quakers from other parts of Britain -or the world, who are accommodated in Friends' homes. Exhibitions continued to be organised in the Meeting Room, but the Local Meeting became uncomfortable with the annual transformation of this room. Continuation of the Fringe involvement was endorsed but use of the Meeting Room for exhibitions ceased. The Festival Committee works through the year, but a considerable proportion of the organisational work falls on the Meeting House managers. +or the world, who are accommodated in Friends’ homes. Exhibitions continued to be organised in the Meeting Room, but the Local Meeting became uncomfortable with the annual transformation of this room. Continuation of the Fringe involvement was endorsed but use of the Meeting Room for exhibitions ceased. The Festival Committee works through the year, but a considerable proportion of the organisational work falls on the Meeting House managers.The Monthly Meeting sold the previous Meeting House premises in Stafford Street in 1987 and bought Victoria Terrace, a listed building, and one adjacent flat in West Bow, for £138,000 with the sale proceeds. (An further flat @@ -517,7 +527,7 @@ an increase in staffing costs over the same period with them assuming greater responsibility for internal financial matters and providing more intensive cover from 0900 to 2200 each weekday. The difference, ranging from £12,000 to -£30,000 per annum, has reduced Area Meeting's contribution to Britain Yearly Meeting. Throughout the two decades it has not been possible to set aside any funds as a provision against future requirements, whether major repairs or improvements. +£30,000 per annum, has reduced Area Meeting’s contribution to Britain Yearly Meeting. Throughout the two decades it has not been possible to set aside any funds as a provision against future requirements, whether major repairs or improvements.
Given the limited number of rooms that are available to let, the management @@ -534,11 +544,12 @@ at the time of purchase, Central Edinburgh Local Meeting pays Area Meeting for its use of the building on Sundays, at a rate originally set at half the charitable letting rate. This decision has been reviewed on -several occasions, and the rate is now more than half, being £65/hour for -five hours each Sunday, or £3,300 per annum (see Figure 6).
-Appendix D shows an estimate of the cost of Friends' use of 7 Victoria +several occasions, and the rate is now more than half the charitable rate, +being approximately £65 for each Sunday, or £3,300 per annum (see Figure 6).
+Appendix D shows an estimate of the cost of Friends’ use of 7 Victoria Terrace during 2008, based on the full charity rate. If we subtract from the -total of approximately £17,000 the contributions of Central Edinburgh +total shown there of approximately £17,000 the amounts which Area Meeting +reclaim from Central Edinburgh Local Meeting (£3,300) and the Festival Fringe (£4,000), the remaining £10,000 represents 35–40% of the gap between income and expenditure in 2007 and 2008.
@@ -551,8 +562,8 @@@@ -574,7 +585,7 @@
Since 2000 income from lettings has increased gradually until 2008 when there was a small decline. A major contribution to this was the loss of two -major 'clients': The Traverse Theatre, who moved to their own (new?) premises, +major ‘clients’: The Traverse Theatre, who moved to their own (new?) premises, and the City of Edinburgh, who cut back on external training.
The main use of the Meeting House as a venue is for voluntary and community groups who want a relatively cheap but central location for one-off meetings, or a series of meetings, or one day conferences with a good ambiance. (People frequently say they do not like the formal service they get from hotels). We are not in the market for corporate events.
This means our clients cannot afford commercial rates that would bring us a clear profit. However the small number of rooms available limits the number of staff required for cleaning and catering.
@@ -672,10 +683,12 @@In all there were approximately 136 lets over this 6-week period. +
In all there were approximately 136 lets over this 6-week period. Costs will depend on size of group, length of time they needed space and which room(s) they rent, and what rate they were charged: following Area Meeting policy, -charges vary depending on size and charitable status. There is also a cost for refreshments, including tea, coffee +there are two basic rates, depending on for-profit versus not-for-profit +status. (The Managers have discretion to charge a reduced rate in a few +cases—this amounts to only a few hundred pounds per annum at most.) There is also a cost for refreshments, including tea, coffee and/or lunch. The above figures can give only a rough picture of current lettings, and are not complete, but are included to give a sense of the breadth and volume of letting.
@@ -693,8 +706,13 @@The use of the building for the Festival is a major undertaking (see 3.3.4). The main hall is made into a small theatre with raked seating. Several small theatre groups rent this space during the Festival.
-There is also the Rainforest Café that runs at the same time-from around 1000–1800. The income form this has increased over the years but again last year there was a drop. The main income is from the theatre lettings but the café does not make much of a profit but adds to the feel and ethos of the venue.
+The use of the building for the Festival is a major undertaking (see in section 3.3). The main hall is made into a small theatre with raked seating. Several small theatre groups rent this space during the Festival.
+There is also the Rainforest Café that runs at the same time-from around 1000–1800. The income from this has increased over the years but again last year there was a drop. The main income is from the theatre lettings. Although the café does not make much of a profit it adds to the feel and ethos of the venue.
+The Festival Fringe activity is an Area Meeting activity, organised by +an Area Meeting committee. Area +Meeting both bears the cost of lost lettings during August, and the increased +wear-and-tear that being a venue entails. Area Meeting also determines the +division of any profit between itself and designated charities.
It is necessary to meet at Victoria Terrace to do practical tasks and allows access to resources.
-The building is ideal for young people's +
The building is ideal for young people’s link weekend---there is no other Quaker building in Scotland that is big enough. We do need to nurture and care for our young people if we are going to keep them involved with Friends.
@@ -736,21 +754,16 @@Ideally placed for outreach
AM, Trustees, Fabric & Maintenance, [Managers' support group?]
-Managers, Ass't Mgr, as-required staff
--The table below summarises the 2008 income and expenditure and demonstrates the dependency on lettings and members and attenders' contributions for income. As far as expenditure was concerned, 2008 was what could be considered a fairly unusual year with elements of one-off capital expenditure on the stonework and the fees for the architect's quinquennial technical review of the property that we have to have to plan for its future maintenance.
Notes | -£'000 | +£,000 |
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Of the total 2008 shortfall, roughly £9,000 is owed to one-off expenditures, leaving only £27,000 owed to ongoing operations, that is, roughly the same as that for 2007.
--[Need for a 2009 budget summary to be added and commented upon.] -
--In order to meet the requirements of the 21st century, in terms of -premises that can be let out, a number of further improvements would -have to be undertaken. Health and safety requirements have stipulated +
A number of modifications and improvements have been suggested, or are +indeed required in some cases, about which decisions need to be taken in the +near future:
+Against the background of the information presented so far, we now turn +to considering the future. On the one hand there are the practicalities: +Do we stay in Victoria Terrace, or do we leave? In either case, further +choices will have to be made. We briefly summarise these in the following +subsection. But equally important are our goals: what do we want for +Friends' presence and witness in Edinburgh in the future? In the second +subsection below we attempt to pull together what we've learned from Friends +and attenders on this question over the last six months.
+If we stay in Victoria Terrace, the financial issues must be addressed, +at the very least by an explicit acknowledgement by Area Meeting of the +financial situation. Broadly speaking there are three options: cut back on +what we do, continue pretty much as at present, or try to do more. These +options are explored below.
@@ -825,16 +863,13 @@
Leaving Victoria Terrace would in turn require further choices to be made:
One of the prime motivations for leaving Stafford Street was that though -central it was not 'visible' to the public; it had no lettings of rooms, no +central it was not ‘visible’ to the public; it had no lettings of rooms, no display windows and no involvement in the Festival. Whether these are wanted in any replacement should therefore be looked for in any candidate alternative premises.
If we decide to sell Victoria Terrace in order to buy, lease or @@ -943,7 +980,7 @@
We explored the cost of moving elsewhere. Minimum accommodation for our own use only would be:
If we could find no suitable venue for our exclusive use we might share with, say, 7th Day Adventists, a play group, an Open Door or community hall that was not required on a Sunday.
-However, it would be necessary for us to be the 'chief' occupants in order that we can +
However, it would be necessary for us to be the ‘chief’ occupants in order that we can arrange mid-week or evening meetings, and have some say over publicity displays and lettings. We would wish to be in charge of lettings, including festival events such as poetry readings, plays, small musical events, and so on. We would not have a @@ -978,7 +1015,7 @@ and around the centre, and there was nothing available for under £250,000 that was any where near large enough. Finding any premises including one room of approximately 800 square feet (the size of the current meeting room and of the hall) was itself -difficult, and we found no premises with two such rooms.
+difficult, and we found no premises at all with two such rooms.One possibility we are aware of but did not explore in detail is taking over, or sharing, other church premises. There was some suggestion that for example the Methodist property off Nicholson Square might be, or be about to @@ -986,9 +1023,8 @@ result in a situation materially different from our current one.
What do we want: summary of options, from our discussions and open meetings
+From the returned questionnaires and the discussions we have had it would seem that the majority of users of the premises would prefer to remain in Victoria Terrace if this is financially possible.
@@ -998,24 +1034,22 @@ witness to these bodies and to the general public, including the large numbers of tourists and visitors to the city. However, it cannot be assumed that Friends in Scotland outwith Edinburgh would be happy to recognise us as a Scottish Quaker Centre. Indeed, there -are Friends in the Area Meeting who do not have any feeling of 'ownership' of 7 +are Friends in the Area Meeting who do not have any feeling of ‘ownership’ of 7 Victoria Terrace nor any sense of involvement in its activities. It is also the case that not all members of Edinburgh Central welcome the disruption and disturbance arising from our Festival activities.Overall, we feel that most people have been positive about staying in Victoria Terrace because it is central and visible, available and open. The doubts are about finance and the Festival.
-Is this enough?
How the practicalities and the vision fit (or -don't). What does Area Meeting do +don’t). What does Area Meeting do next. . .
Material we've gathered (what do we keep back?)
[include doc here]
@@ -1042,8 +1076,7 @@Grand total for the year:£16,873
The following documents, while not part of this report, have been submitted to Area Meeting as they provided input to our work:
This report has three main sections, organised chronologically, covering the history of the Quaker ownership of 7 Victoria Terrace, its current situation, and a range of possibilities for the future. These are preceded by -a brief 'executive summary' of our work and its conclusions, and followed by a +a brief ‘executive summary’ of our work and its conclusions, and followed by a collection of background material.
Although in the end it is our judgement that some options make more sense
going forward than others, we have
We moved to 7 Victoria Terrace from @@ -100,7 +110,7 @@
A property developer had approached the Meeting several times offering to purchase the building on very attractive terms, and after a series of Meetings for Business and threshing sessions the Preparative and Monthly Meetings agreed to the move, even though -we didn't know at the time we left where our new home would be. In the end we spent +we didn’t know at the time we left where our new home would be. In the end we spent nearly two years at Gilles College in Marchmont, first while we found a new home, and then while it was refurbished for us.
There is space for a good-sized library.
-The children's space is improved although +
The children’s space is improved although the crèche is rather dark and small and out of the way but other spaces are quite flexible.
@@ -148,21 +158,21 @@ our young people involved with Friends we need to care for and nurture them. 7 Victoria Terrace is an ideal place to do this.The building was in quite a poor state when it was purchased by the Monthly Meeting. Apart from the internal work which gave us the basic rooms layout, substantial repair work had to be undertaken to repair badly weathered sandstone on the exterior and some roof repairs were also necessary. Urgent repair to stonework was necessary in 2007–8 to make the building safe and opportunity was taken, while the scaffolding was in place, to do general stonework improvement with a view to preventing the need for further such work for the next 20 years or so.
There follows a description of each room, working down from the top.
@@ -208,12 +218,12 @@
-Little has been done to the double
-There are
A tiled passage leads from the foyer past doors to under-stair storage and a small
-cleaner's cupboard and on to a utility area with
+cleaner’s cupboard and on to a utility area with
Belfast
sink, in which the washing machine is now fitted. Off this is an
-The
The net result of all this is that of the six flats on the stair, one is owned -by the Boys' Brigade, three are in private (Quaker) hands, and two are owned by the +by the Boys’ Brigade, three are in private (Quaker) hands, and two are owned by the Area Meeting:
The principal reasons which led to the decision to purchase the Victoria Terrace building were:
Quaker use of the building developed well in the early years while Ian and -Lise were wardens, as did community use. A group, which included Lise and Ian, saw from the beginning the opportunity offered by the August Festival Fringe to develop the use and profile of the building. Lise was an able vegetarian/vegan cook. She and Ian had `green' concerns and it was decided to run the Library as the `Rainforest Cafe' for two weeks during the Fringe, raising money for rainforest charities. The Hall and Meeting Room were offered for exhibition and concert use concurrent with this. +Lise were wardens, as did community use. A group, which included Lise and Ian, saw from the beginning the opportunity offered by the August Festival Fringe to develop the use and profile of the building. Lise was an able vegetarian/vegan cook. She and Ian had ‘green’ concerns and it was decided to run the Library as the ‘Rainforest Cafe’ for two weeks during the Fringe, raising money for rainforest charities. The Hall and Meeting Room were offered for exhibition and concert use concurrent with this.
After Ian and then Lise left, Mark and Anna Twinam-Cauchi, a student couple, were wardens for a short while. When they left, a rota of volunteer keyholders was set up to open up, service organisations renting rooms and welcome callers. A support group of Friends, which included Archie Campbell and Jennie Nielson was put in place, with the specific purpose of ensuring a Quaker profile for the building. By 1994, they were running a rota to staff the building on Wednesdays to greet visitors, advise any who had problems and explain Quakerism.
@@ -298,7 +308,7 @@Income from lettings in 1994 was about £14,000. Given stable management and the resulting improved standards of service offered to users, this grew quite rapidly with increasing use of the building. As lettings increased, there were some small tensions regarding Quaker use during the week. Quaker committees had been accustomed to turning up, sometimes without booking, and finding there was a room available. They now found they had to book and then had to book longer and longer in advance to ensure a room was free. An attempt was made to solve this problem by setting the Library apart one evening each week for Quaker use, but this (unsurprisingly) failed—the evening so reserved seldom suited the committee that wanted it—so committees and groups which were unable to plan sufficiently in advance became accustomed to meeting in homes.
-A two tier letting charge system has been developed over the years, with a lower charge for charitable and grass-roots groups and higher charges for local and national government and commercial groups and classes. There has been some measure of negotiation on charges at the discretion of the wardens/managers, with, for example, new grass-roots groups being given use below the charitable rate until they became established. An eye has been kept on rates charged by comparable buildings in the neighbourhood and there has been co-operation on this, especially with Augustine United and St Columba's-by-the-Castle. The busyness of the building increased steadily until, for several years, it was about as full as it reasonably could be, from +
A two tier letting charge system has been developed over the years, with a lower charge for charitable and grass-roots groups and higher charges for local and national government and commercial groups and classes. There has been some measure of negotiation on charges at the discretion of the wardens/managers, with, for example, new grass-roots groups being given use below the charitable rate until they became established. An eye has been kept on rates charged by comparable buildings in the neighbourhood and there has been co-operation on this, especially with Augustine United and St Columba’s-by-the-Castle. The busyness of the building increased steadily until, for several years, it was about as full as it reasonably could be, from 9 am until 10 pm @@ -306,7 +316,7 @@
Facilities and equipment have been steadily developed over the years, with digital projector, laptop computer and wireless internet availability now added to the familiar flipcharts, TV and DVD player and overhead projectors.
-Increase in the use of the building necessitated an increase in staff and it was particularly important to ensure continuity of standards of service during the managers' absence on holidays and days off. There has been a deputy warden/manager appointed for the past 12 years or so and this has usually been a residential post, with the appointee occupying the smaller flat. Deputy managers have included Andy May, Doug Kline, Finn Pollard, Philip Davies, Mary Woodward and Tom Nisbet. Additional staffing, all paid, has been provided by members of the Meeting and by students, also usually attenders or members. The role title of the wardens was changed to managers some 7 or 8 years ago, this job title more accurately reflecting the managerial responsibility the post now carries. +
Increase in the use of the building necessitated an increase in staff and it was particularly important to ensure continuity of standards of service during the managers’ absence on holidays and days off. There has been a deputy warden/manager appointed for the past 12 years or so and this has usually been a residential post, with the appointee occupying the smaller flat. Deputy managers have included Andy May, Doug Kline, Finn Pollard, Philip Davies, Mary Woodward and Tom Nisbet. Additional staffing, all paid, has been provided by members of the Meeting and by students, also usually attenders or members. The role title of the wardens was changed to managers some 7 or 8 years ago, this job title more accurately reflecting the managerial responsibility the post now carries.
At the time that Phil and Pat Lucas were appointed, Marion Morton was clerk of General Meeting for Scotland. She was also part of the group providing a Quaker presence in 7 Victoria Terrace and she combined these two roles by doing her -General Meeting work in the Meeting House Office one day a week, providing cover for a wardens' day off. +General Meeting work in the Meeting House Office one day a week, providing cover for a wardens’ day off.
A General Meeting group was then looking at developing the Quaker base and presence in Scotland, including the appointment of an administrative assistant to @@ -334,13 +344,13 @@
There was concern in some other Scottish Area Meetings about Scottish Quaker affairs becoming too Edinburgh-based, which may have -contributed to the end of Quaker Link Scotland's short life, but the +contributed to the end of Quaker Link Scotland’s short life, but the fatal blow was that, when the paid administrative assistant post was advertised, the successful candidate lived on the Moray coast and preferred to work from home. The General Meeting clerkship at the -same time moved away from the South East. When Pat and Phil Lucas's +same time moved away from the South East. When Pat and Phil Lucas’s outreach appointments came to their end, it was no longer appropriate -to send enquirers' packs to Scottish enquirers from the 7 Victoria Terrace office, (although they continued to do so for a year or two on a voluntary basis). The last vestiges of Quaker Link +to send enquirers’ packs to Scottish enquirers from the 7 Victoria Terrace office, (although they continued to do so for a year or two on a voluntary basis). The last vestiges of Quaker Link Scotland thus disappeared.
@@ -352,7 +362,7 @@ it into a 65 seat black-box theatre, for the first time in August 1995. Use of the theatre that year was dominated by one theatre group, which was reluctant to share facilities with others. Setting up the theatre in this way involved considerable hire costs, so the Committee decided for 1996 to take firmer control and, in order to recoup hire costs, to run for three weeks. Use of the space developed over subsequent years until there were up to six shows per day, six days each week, with the café now open also for three weeks. The increased staffing this required was provided almost entirely from volunteers, many of them Quakers from other parts of Britain -or the world, who are accommodated in Friends' homes. Exhibitions continued to be organised in the Meeting Room, but the Local Meeting became uncomfortable with the annual transformation of this room. Continuation of the Fringe involvement was endorsed but use of the Meeting Room for exhibitions ceased. The Festival Committee works through the year, but a considerable proportion of the organisational work falls on the Meeting House managers. +or the world, who are accommodated in Friends’ homes. Exhibitions continued to be organised in the Meeting Room, but the Local Meeting became uncomfortable with the annual transformation of this room. Continuation of the Fringe involvement was endorsed but use of the Meeting Room for exhibitions ceased. The Festival Committee works through the year, but a considerable proportion of the organisational work falls on the Meeting House managers.The Monthly Meeting sold the previous Meeting House premises in Stafford
Street in 1987 and bought Victoria Terrace, a listed building, and one adjacent
@@ -493,7 +503,7 @@
an increase in staffing costs over the same period with them assuming greater
responsibility for internal financial matters and providing more intensive cover
from 0900 to 2200 each weekday. The difference, ranging from £12,000 to
-£30,000
Given the limited number of rooms that are available to let, the management @@ -510,11 +520,12 @@ at the time of purchase, Central Edinburgh Local Meeting pays Area Meeting for its use of the building on Sundays, at a rate originally set at half the charitable letting rate. This decision has been reviewed on -several occasions, and the rate is now more than half, being £65/hour for -five hours each Sunday, or £3,300 per annum (see Figure 6).
-Appendix D shows an estimate of the cost of Friends' use of 7 Victoria +several occasions, and the rate is now more than half the charitable rate, +being approximately £65 for each Sunday, or £3,300 per annum (see Figure 6).
+Appendix D shows an estimate of the cost of Friends’ use of 7 Victoria Terrace during 2008, based on the full charity rate. If we subtract from the -total of approximately £17,000 the contributions of Central Edinburgh +total shown there of approximately £17,000 the amounts which Area Meeting +reclaim from Central Edinburgh Local Meeting (£3,300) and the Festival Fringe (£4,000), the remaining £10,000 represents 35–40% of the gap between income and expenditure in 2007 and 2008.
@@ -528,7 +539,7 @@Since 2000 income from lettings has increased gradually until 2008 when there was a small decline. A major contribution to this was the loss of two -major 'clients': The Traverse Theatre, who moved to their own (new?) premises, +major ‘clients’: The Traverse Theatre, who moved to their own (new?) premises, and the City of Edinburgh, who cut back on external training.
The main use of the Meeting House as a venue is for voluntary and community groups who want a relatively cheap but central location for one-off meetings, or a series of meetings, or one day conferences with a good ambiance. (People frequently say they do not like the formal service they get from hotels). We are not in the market for corporate events.
This means our clients cannot afford commercial rates that would bring us a clear profit. However the small number of rooms available limits the number of staff required for cleaning and catering.
@@ -649,10 +660,12 @@In all there were approximately
In all there were approximately 136 lets over this 6-week period. Costs will depend on size of group, length of time they needed space and which room(s) they rent, and what rate they were charged: following Area Meeting policy, -charges vary depending on size and charitable status. There is also a cost for refreshments, including tea, coffee +there are two basic rates, depending on for-profit versus not-for-profit +status. (The Managers have discretion to charge a reduced rate in a few +cases—this amounts to only a few hundred pounds per annum at most.) There is also a cost for refreshments, including tea, coffee and/or lunch. The above figures can give only a rough picture of current lettings, and are not complete, but are included to give a sense of the breadth and volume of letting.
@@ -670,8 +683,13 @@The use of the building for the Festival is a major undertaking (see 3.3.4). The main hall is made into a small theatre with raked seating. Several small theatre groups rent this space during the Festival.
-There is also the Rainforest Café that runs at the same time-from around 1000–1800. The income form this has increased over the years but again last year there was a drop. The main income is from the theatre lettings but the café does not make much of a profit but adds to the feel and ethos of the venue.
+The use of the building for the Festival is a major undertaking (see in section 3.3). The main hall is made into a small theatre with raked seating. Several small theatre groups rent this space during the Festival.
+There is also the Rainforest Café that runs at the same time-from around 1000–1800. The income from this has increased over the years but again last year there was a drop. The main income is from the theatre lettings. Although the café does not make much of a profit it adds to the feel and ethos of the venue.
+The Festival Fringe activity is an Area Meeting activity, organised by +an Area Meeting committee. Area +Meeting both bears the cost of lost lettings during August, and the increased +wear-and-tear that being a venue entails. Area Meeting also determines the +division of any profit between itself and designated charities.
It is necessary to meet at Victoria Terrace to do practical tasks and allows access to resources.
-The building is ideal for young people's +
The building is ideal for young people’s link weekend---there is no other Quaker building in Scotland that is big enough. We do need to nurture and care for our young people if we are going to keep them involved with Friends.
@@ -713,21 +731,16 @@Ideally placed for outreach
-The table below summarises the 2008 income and expenditure and demonstrates the dependency on lettings and members and attenders' contributions for income. As far as expenditure was concerned, 2008 was what could be considered a fairly unusual year with elements of one-off capital expenditure on the stonework and the fees for the architect's quinquennial technical review of the property that we have to have to plan for its future maintenance.
Notes | -£'000 | +£,000 |
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Of the total 2008 shortfall, roughly £9,000 is owed to one-off expenditures, leaving only £27,000 owed to ongoing operations, that is, roughly the same as that for 2007.
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-In order to meet the requirements of the 21st century, in terms of -premises that can be let out, a number of further improvements would -have to be undertaken. Health and safety requirements have stipulated +
A number of modifications and improvements have been suggested, or are +indeed required in some cases, about which decisions need to be taken in the +near future:
+Against the background of the information presented so far, we now turn
+to considering the future. On the one hand there are the practicalities:
+Do we stay in Victoria Terrace, or do we leave? In either case, further
+choices will have to be made. We briefly summarise these in the following
+subsection. But equally important are our goals: what do we
If we stay in Victoria Terrace, the financial issues must be addressed, +at the very least by an explicit acknowledgement by Area Meeting of the +financial situation. Broadly speaking there are three options: cut back on +what we do, continue pretty much as at present, or try to do more. These +options are explored below.
@@ -803,16 +835,13 @@
Leaving Victoria Terrace would in turn require further choices to be made:
One of the prime motivations for leaving Stafford Street was that though -central it was not 'visible' to the public; it had no lettings of rooms, no +central it was not ‘visible’ to the public; it had no lettings of rooms, no display windows and no involvement in the Festival. Whether these are wanted in any replacement should therefore be looked for in any candidate alternative premises.
If we decide to sell Victoria Terrace in order to buy, lease or @@ -921,7 +952,7 @@
We explored the cost of moving elsewhere. Minimum accommodation for our own use only would be:
If we could find no suitable venue for our exclusive use we might share with, say, 7th Day Adventists, a play group, an Open Door or community hall that was not required on a Sunday.
-However, it would be necessary for us to be the 'chief' occupants in order that we can +
However, it would be necessary for us to be the ‘chief’ occupants in order that we can
arrange mid-week or evening meetings, and have some say over publicity displays and
lettings. We would wish to be in charge of lettings, including festival events
such as poetry readings, plays, small musical events, and so on. We would not have a
@@ -956,7 +987,7 @@
and around the centre, and there was nothing available for under £250,000
that was any where near large enough. Finding
One possibility we are aware of but did not explore in detail is taking over, or sharing, other church premises. There was some suggestion that for example the Methodist property off Nicholson Square might be, or be about to @@ -964,9 +995,8 @@ result in a situation materially different from our current one.
What do we want: summary of options, from our discussions and open meetings
From the returned questionnaires and the discussions we have had it would seem that the majority of users of the premises would prefer to remain in Victoria Terrace if this is financially possible.
@@ -976,25 +1006,23 @@ witness to these bodies and to the general public, including the large numbers of tourists and visitors to the city. However, it cannot be assumed that Friends in Scotland outwith Edinburgh would be happy to recognise us as a Scottish Quaker Centre. Indeed, there -are Friends in the Area Meeting who do not have any feeling of 'ownership' of 7 +are Friends in the Area Meeting who do not have any feeling of ‘ownership’ of 7 Victoria Terrace nor any sense of involvement in its activities. It is also the case that not all members of Edinburgh Central welcome the disruption and disturbance arising from our Festival activities.Overall, we feel that most people have been positive about staying in Victoria Terrace because it is central and visible, available and open. The doubts are about finance and the Festival.
-Material we've gathered (what do we keep back?)
[include doc here]
@@ -1021,8 +1049,7 @@The following documents, while not part of this report, have been
@@ -1252,10 +1274,7 @@