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--- a/7vt/report.xml Tue Jun 02 05:41:48 2009 -0400 +++ b/7vt/report.xml Tue Jun 02 11:13:41 2009 -0400 @@ -4,11 +4,11 @@ <doc> <head> <title>Report to Area Meeting from the Future of Victoria Terrace Working Group</title> - <title><emph color="red">DRAFT: contains contributions received through 31/5</emph></title> + <title><emph color="red">DRAFT: contains contributions received through 1/6</emph></title> <author>Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding, Phil Lucas, Brian Mayes, -Laurie Naumann, +Laurie Naumann, Rufus Reade, Eileen Schott, Henry S. Thompson</author> - <date>1 June 2009</date> + <date>2 June 2009</date> <style>td.t, td.s {text-align: right} td.n {text-align: center} td.s {font-weight: bold} @@ -393,19 +393,19 @@ </tr> <tr> <td>Redevelopment of Foyer</td> -<td class="n">[6]</td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t">5.8</td><td class="t">34.7</td><td class="t">29.4</td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td> +<td class="n">[6]</td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t">5.8</td><td class="t">34.7</td><td class="t">29.4</td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td> </tr> <tr> <td>External Stonework</td> -<td class="n">[7]</td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t">29.7</td> +<td class="n">[7]</td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t">29.7</td> </tr> <tr> <td>Consultancy</td> -<td class="n">[8]</td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t">8.3</td> +<td class="n">[8]</td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t">8.3</td> </tr> <tr class="t"> <td class="s">Total</td> -<td></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t">5.8</td><td class="t">34.7</td><td class="t">29.4</td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t">38.0</td> +<td></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t">5.8</td><td class="t">34.7</td><td class="t">29.4</td><td class="t"></td><td class="t"></td><td class="t">38.0</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> @@ -522,6 +522,8 @@ <p>??? didn't get anything for this from Madeleine ???</p> <caption>How long the lets were for and the number each week</caption> </figure> + <p>In all there were 132 lets over this 6-week period. +Costs will depend on size of group, length of time they needed space and which room(s) they rent. There is also a cost for refreshments, including tea, coffee and/or lunch.</p> <p>It was not possible to know from the non-Quaker groups how they rated the premises. However there were over thirty groups using the building which feels very positive.</p> <p>It is unclear if we should or could increase income by raising the letting rates. Trustees are aware the lettings levels have fallen, especially daytime use. A possible reason for this could be greater competition in the area for the level of provision we offer. Our letting charges are comparable with other churches/halls in the area.</p> <p>On the plus side it is an advantage having managers on site and we @@ -677,30 +679,24 @@ </item> </list> <p> -Several staff work flexibly to cover these periods. +Several staff work flexibly to cover these periods: there is always someone at +the front desk when the building is open. </p> <p> Reasons for reducing the opening hours : reducing costs- heating, lighting and staff cover and reducing wear and tear on the fabric of the building </p> <p> -Reasons for not reducing opening hours: reduced lettings and reduced income, -</p> -<p> -reduced facilities for Quakers and non-Quakers using the building and reduced opportunities for outreach. -</p> -<p> -Note - Lettings are down on previous years and staff costs are higher. +Reasons for not reducing opening hours: reduced lettings and reduced income, as +well as reduced facilities for Quakers and non-Quakers using the building and reduced opportunities for outreach. </p> <p> Hospitality, information and outreach: the Meeting House is centrally located and attracts many visitors – reduced opening hours would limit contact with the public, it may affect bookings if enquiries are not answered in person (rather than on-line or by leaving a message on an answer-phone) and may reduce first-timers coming to Meeting for Worship. </p> <p> -Other alternatives – all of which would reduce costs, reduce income and contact with the general public, visitors, newcomers and passers-by therefore reducing outreach opportunities. -</p> +Other alternatives – all of which would reduce costs, reduce income and contact with the general public, visitors, newcomers and passers-by therefore reducing outreach opportunities:</p> <list> <item> -Reduce activities to Quaker activities only – this would reduce opening hours and lettings and increase costs per capita. -</item> +Reduce activities to Quaker activities only – this would reduce opening hours and lettings and increase costs per capita.</item> <item> The Rain Forest Café - the café could go and/or drinks and snacks alone could be provided for visitors. </item> @@ -712,7 +708,7 @@ </item> </list> <p> -It is clear from our initial consultations that radical changes would change the nature of the Meeting and affect the users of the building. +It is clear from our initial consultations that any significant reduction in activity would change the feel of the Meeting and affect the users of the building. </p> </div> <div> @@ -722,20 +718,21 @@ </p> <list> <item> -The kitchen does not meet Health and Safety standards to prepare and serve meat to the public. An alternative is to serve vegetarian food only and ask for donations from the public. -</item> +The kitchen does not meet Health and Safety standards to prepare and serve meat +to the public. An alternative is to serve vegetarian food only and ask for +donations from the public. Trustees are actively exploring this area: the +working group does not feel that the exact nature of the trade-offs between +regulation, enforcement and kinds of use has yet been clearly established, so +that an informed decision can be taken with respect to the kitchen in particular.</item> <item> We could plan for the future to include a schedule of works - upgrading basic facilities - the windows, toilets, heating and consider what is required to improve the layout of the rooms and food preparation facilities as they affect members of the meeting and lettings. </item> </list> -<p> -The group looked at selling the building, renting premises and relocating to the outskirts of the city and these are not viable options. -</p> </div> <div> <title>Do More</title> <p> -The Quakers and non-Quakers who responded to our questionnaire and Worship Sharing sessions said they value the building, its central location and what is available in the Meeting House. Successive Meeting House Managers have continually improved the appearance of the Meeting House. Doing more in the Meeting House and with the Meeting House could include +The Quakers and non-Quakers who responded to our questionnaire and Worship Sharing sessions said they value the building, its central location and what is available in the Meeting House. Successive Meeting House Managers have continually improved the appearance of the Meeting House. Doing more in the Meeting House and with the Meeting House could include: </p> <list> <item> @@ -767,22 +764,25 @@ <item>Own premises (build/refit/share)</item> <item>Hire premises (Sole tenant/share)</item> </list> - <p>One of the prime motivations for leaving Stafford Street was that though central it was not 'visible' to the public; it had no lettings of rooms, no display windows and no involvement in the Festival. These would therefore be looked for in any alternative</p> -<p>premises.</p> + <p>One of the prime motivations for leaving Stafford Street was that though +central it was not 'visible' to the public; it had no lettings of rooms, no +display windows and no involvement in the Festival. Whether these are wanted in +any replacement should therefore be looked for in any candidate alternative premises.</p> <p>If we decide to sell Victoria Terrace in order to buy, lease or - even share somewhere else it would probably be necessary to sell also the two flats. [see sections ]</p> -<list type="enum"> -<item>Minimum accommodation for our own use only would be: -<list> + even share somewhere else it would probably be necessary to sell also the +two flats. 7 Victoria Terrace was valued at only £160,000 <emph>before</emph> the current slump +in property prices, at which time the two flats together were valued <emph color="red">at ???</emph></p> + <p>We explored the cost of moving elsewhere. Minimum accommodation for our own use only would be:</p> + <list> <item>1 Meeting Room</item> <item>1 Children's Room</item> <item>Library</item> <item>Kitchen (for heating up only)</item> <item>Lavatories</item> -<item>Office (?)</item></list></item> -<item>Preferably, for our own needs and possible lettings or sharing, -we would be looking for: -<list> +<item>Office (?)</item></list> + <p>Preferably, for our own needs and possible lettings or sharing, +we would be looking for:</p> + <list> <item>2 Meeting Rooms</item> <item>2 Children's Rooms</item> <item>Kitchen (for cooking)</item> @@ -790,7 +790,6 @@ <item>Lavatories</item> <item>2 Committee rooms</item> <item> Office</item> -</list></item> </list> <p>A central location would be in the area bounded by High Street to Queen Street and Queensferry Street. to Leith Street.</p> @@ -807,6 +806,16 @@ such as poetry readings, plays, small musical events, and so on. We would not have a café, but might offer light refreshments and have an exhibition on walls other those of the Meeting Room.</p> + <p>We carried out a survey of commercial property of a reasonable scale in +and around the centre, and there was nothing available for under £250,000 +that was any where near large enough. Finding <emph>any</emph> premises including one room of approximately 800 +square feet (the size of the current meeting room and of the hall) was itself +difficult, and we found no premises with <emph>two</emph> such rooms.</p> + <p>One possibility we are aware of but did not explore in detail is taking +over, or sharing, other church premises. There was some suggestion that for +example the Methodist property off Nicholson Square might be, or be about to +be, available. It seemed at best unlikely that a move to such premises would +result in a situation materially different from our current one.</p> </div> </div> <div> @@ -841,6 +850,15 @@ <div id="remit"> <title>Appendix A: Remit from Area Meeting</title> </div> + <div id="quests"> + <title>Appendix B: Questionnaires for different user groups</title> + </div> + <div id="open"> + <title>Appendix C: Summary of contributions from open meetings</title> + </div> + <div id="other"> + <title>Appendix ?: What else?</title> + </div> </div> </body> </doc>