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+  <title>Future of 7 VT working group: Tenth meeting</title>
+  <author>This informal summary by Henry S. Thompson, Convenor</author>
+  <date>Held at 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh on 1 May 2009, 5:30 p.m.</date>
+ </head>
+ <body>
+  <div>
+   <title>Attendance</title>
+   <p>Present: Alison Burnley, Sue Buxton (in part), Anthony Buxton (in part), Madeleine Harding,
+Phil Lucas, Brian Mayes, Laurie Naumann
+Eileen Schott, Henry Thompson (in the clerk's chair)</p>
+   <p>Prevented: Rufus Reade</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Discussion with Meeting House Managers</title>
+   <p>SB began by showing us the Staff Handbook&mdash;57 pages of guidance for
+our staff, as a counterweight to suggestions that we don't need staff, or that
+volunteer staff could do as well as paid staff.</p>
+   <p>SB shared her view of what her tasks were, although a 'typical' day doesn't
+really exist.  Although the Manager role is notionally a job-share, it is often the
+case that both SB and AB are here, along with Tom Nisbet sometimes.  Rough
+distribution of responsibilities is</p>
+   <list>
+    <item>office: AB;</item>
+    <item>maintenance and AV invoicing:
+TN;</item>
+    <item>bookings and public face: SB.</item>
+   </list>
+   <p>Through the day with SB: 0745: open up, check kitchen if hot water needs to be turned on;
+0800 Early-bird meeting;
+0830 Prepare for 0900 entries (some days three groups, some days none);
+0900 Group arrival, catering (catering drinks for a group takes a number of
+tasks, at roughly 1.5/2 hour intervals.
+[Caterers may arrive any time after 0900 for 1300 lunch, in which case stuff
+may need refridgerated and then taken out and served.]</p>
+   <p>Also during the morning, with help from assistant, work through booking
+requests from phone, email overnight.</p>
+   <p>Trying to close between end of day lettings and evening staff opening is
+rarely possible.</p>
+   <p>Post-group cleanup has been simplified since no food in Meeting Room, but
+even there sometimes hovering is required/usually done.</p>
+   <p>The evening staff like to have a set of tasks, e.g. ironing, for when they have a lull,
+but if a group keeps them busy they don't get to them.</p>
+   <p>The bookshop takes time, as we are now recognised as a bookshop by
+Friends House bookshop</p>
+   <p>SB cleans the kitchen on a regular basis.</p>
+<p>Window displays: we do try to put a topical display up for a big group, and sometimes that
+needs staff help, for instance finding materials: Jane Angel does a lot, but
+sometimes gets help.</p>
+   <p>Kitchen stock taking, and ordering.  Similarly for cleaning and toilet supplies.</p>
+   <p>BM reported that Sheffield meeting has 4--6 full-time staff, plus
+part-timers.  What is the right full staffing level for 7VT?  S &amp; A said the
+flexibility of the part-timers works well, because it allows them to balance
+staffing with demand from lettings.  HST suggested to clarify that it's the
+full-time appointment that matters.  AB said that in fact they are both working
+full-time 8 1/2 hours a day for four days (M--Th).  Originally they were working
+alternate Sundays to make it up to 36, but that has been stopped, and SB said
+that has improved her engagement as a member of the Meeting.  Using temporary
+staff as primary staff on Sunday.</p>
+   <p>There is one paid cleaner in 6 days a week early in the mornings, mostly
+toilets and floors, but not the kitchen.</p>
+   <p>AB spends most of his time in the office: email takes a lot of time (30+
+a day, more on Mondays).  Some is forwarded, but a lot is enquiries.  This is
+where all the Festival stuff comes in.  At certain times of year that can be a
+very time-consuming task.  Fringe admin involves a lot of liaison work with both companies and
+volunteers, as well as liaison 'upwards': with the Fringe committee and the
+association of independent venues.  Oversight of all the maintenance work, and,
+for work that TN doesn't do, dealing with quotes/contractors/etc.  CCTV, Lifts,
+Doors, Dishwashers,. . . are all on contract.  Recycling (which we pay for).  Financial work: bills and invoices for the running of the Meeting
+House.  During building work, AB was involved with a lot of co-ordination. Chases all late payers for lettings.  All the general practical correspondence.</p>
+   <p>While AB and SB are on holiday, some things are suspended (including most
+email processing), but most work
+gets done by the Assistant Manager.  Obviously there is both preparation in
+advance and extra work on return.</p>
+   <p>Quaker presence: Displays in the Foyer, keeping the website up-to-date, brochures.</p>
+   <p>We came back to the FTE question.  9am to 10pm 6 days a week open, plus 5
+hours on a Sunday.  HST pointed out that between SB&amp;AB working roughly
+34/wk each, and TN doing 3 days a week, we are well over two 'permanent' staff,
+in addition to the casual labour which is adjusted to meet demand.  Cathy,
+McCarron, Andrew
+Farrar, Lee Marlow, Emma Dumment, Mike Stokes, Amy Naumann, Philip Davis are
+all in for differing amounts of time.</p>
+   <p>MH asked if this was substantially different from how things were before
+the Buxtons arrived.  There is more staff, somewhat less lettings/other us, transfer of work
+from Treasurer.  Under-staffing does not seem to be directly responsible for any
+reduction in lettings.</p>
+   <p>We will have to return to this when we come to the report, as the
+question of sustainability of our current lettings/staffing/usage policy for
+our discussion of options and their costs and benefits.</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Form followup</title>
+   <list type="defn">
+    <item term="Lettings comparison">ES has gotten some more info re
+smaller out-of-town sites, no large ones available.  HST has this and will feed it in to the report.</item>
+    <item term="Quaker groups">MH has re-circulated an updated tabulation. 
+Library C'ttee will reply this week.</item>
+    <item term="Central Edinburgh">HST has circulated a tabulation of the replies, and is still working on copying the individual comments.</item>
+    <item term="Local meetings">PL has had replies from Midweek Meeting, East Lothian and
+Central Fife, pretty much as expected.  Kelso will reply this week.</item>
+    <item term="MH staff">PL has circulated a "discerned corporate response"
+from a meeting of MH staff, as well as an individual one from AF.</item>
+   </list>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>First open meeting review and second open meeting preparation</title>
+   <p>A general feeling was expressed that the meeting went well, with a good
+atmosphere.</p>
+   <p>PL and MH reported that the outlying meetings were generally positive,
+appreciate the building and what was offered,
+but not terribly engaged with the issue.</p>
+   <p>"We may be impartial, but we're not neutral".</p>
+   <p>We see no need for Monday's arrangements to be any different than
+originally planned:</p>
+   <list><item>HST to introduce</item>
+    <item>LN to take notes</item>
+    <item>PL, MH, BM, ES will also attend.</item></list>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Actions review and new actions</title>
+   <p>HST to circulate via email a proposal for report-writing responsibilities.</p>
+  </div>
+  <div>
+   <title>Next Meetings</title>
+   <p>Our next meeting will be at 7 Victoria Terrace at 5:30pm on Friday 15 May
+[RR apologies]. We
+tentatively agreed on Friday 29 May 5:30pm [apologies MH, ML] for our next (and final) meeting after that.</p>
+   <p>We currently expect HST, PL, BM, ES, AB, MH at Area Meeting in Fife on 6 June</p>
+  </div>
+ </body>
+</doc>