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1 <?xml version='1.0'?>
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6 <doc>
7 <head>
8 <title>Future of 7 VT working group: Eighth meeting</title>
9 <author>This informal summary by Henry S. Thompson, Convenor</author>
10 <date>Held at 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh on 3 April 2009, 5:30 p.m.</date>
11 </head>
12 <body>
13 <div>
14 <title>Attendance</title>
15 <p>Present: Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding,
16 Brian Mayes, Laurie Naumann,
17 Eileen Schott, Henry Thompson (in the clerk's chair)</p>
18 <p>Prevented: Phil Lucas, Rufus Reade</p>
19 </div>
20 <div>
21 <title>Real Estate Market review</title>
22 <p>AB identified some commercial estate agents, and spoke with a local
23 agent: his estimate for 1 large room, 2 smaller rooms, kitchen and lavatories
24 was 150 to 200 thousand pounds, in the centre of Edinburgh.</p>
25 <p>This would require not only selling 7VT but also at least one of the
26 flats.</p>
27 <p>Our current Meeting Room is 792sq ft, as is the hall.</p>
28 <p>Not clear how quickly we could sell, or what a realistic cost for a
29 building that would suit us would be, that is, not clear that we could get a
30 building with an 800sq ft room for 200 thousand.</p>
31 <p>If we remain a central meeting, we need at least that much space, as the
32 Meeting Room is full on busy Sundays. If we are split up, what does that do to
33 our community?</p>
34 <p>ES looked at out-of-town 'units', semi-industrial, no costings retained.
35 Windows are an issue, and of course conversion costs would be high.</p>
36 </div>
37 <div>
38 <title>Comparison with other meeting venue rentals</title>
39 <p>ES looked at our rental charges and those of some other church hall
40 rentals in the area. The figures look broadly comparable to ours, so there is
41 not much scope for raising prices to get more income. ES was impressed by the
42 quality of the website the Meeting House uses to present itself to potential
43 renters. Having a manager on site also meant our response time was much better
44 than most of the other sites.</p>
45 </div>
46 <div>
47 <title>Status for form distribution/collection</title>
48 <list type="defn">
49 <item term="Financial experts">LN waiting for review of his proposed
50 questions, will interview individuals.</item>
51 <item term="Lettings comparison">ES has done this, see above.</item>
52 <item term="Quaker groups">MH has distributed a questionnaire, and has
53 between 1/3 and 1/2 of them back</item>
54 <item term="Central Edinburgh">Forms were available at the rise of meeting
55 on Sunday 29th March, 25 replies in hand.</item>
56 <item term="Midweek meeting">AB has given out some forms, more to go out
57 next Wed.</item>
58 <item term="Local meetings">No news from PL</item>
59 <item term="MH staff">No news from PL</item>
60 </list>
61 <p>We'll try to have tabulated responses by our next meeting, at which point
62 we can combine across different groups</p>
63 </div>
64 <div>
65 <title>Next steps and next time</title>
66 <p>We agreed that dividing up the writing work makes sense, and HST agreed
67 to try to move us forward on the draft table of contents so that we can begin
68 to agree who will contribute what writing. HST said that he envisages having
69 both a report on our work, covering all the information we've gathered,
70 probably quite substantial, and a much shorter 'executive summary'.</p>
71 <p>What about soliciting forward-looking input from various
72 constituencies? Time is short, but we need to give people an opportunity to
73 contribute to the vision.</p>
74 <p>We will have two open meetings to give people the opportunity
75 to share their visions of the future with us: 3 p.m. on 3 May and 7:30pm on 4 May.</p>
76 <p>ES shared her idea of a public participation (experiential) means of
77 presenting our findings and helping the AM to understand our findings, maybe at
78 AM on 6 June, or afterwards.</p>
79 </div>
80 <div>
81 <title>Actions review and new actions</title>
82 <p>HST to get the Kath Russell report [<name>done</name>]</p>
83 <p>HST to ask John Phillips for an electronic version of his notes for us [<name>done</name>]</p>
84 <p>HST to ask Ken Jobling where to find the details of how food hygiene regulations
85 apply depending on exactly what's happening. [<name>overtaken</name>]</p>
86 <p>HST to invite Mark Hutcheson to one of our meetings at his earliest
87 convenience, as Convenor of AM Trustees. [<name>done</name>]</p>
88 <p>ES to get some costs of out-of-town units</p>
89 <p>HST to get publicicity out about the vision input meetings.</p>
90 </div>
91 <div>
92 <title>Next Meeting</title>
93 <p>Our next meeting will be at 7 Victoria Terrace at 5:30pm on Friday 24 April. We
94 tentatively agreed on Friday 1 May 5:30pm for our next meeting after that.</p>
95 </div>
96 </body>
97 </doc>