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author | Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> |
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date | Tue, 26 Mar 2024 21:43:18 +0000 |
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1 A bit of history, to set the scene. | |
2 | |
3 The General Meeting for Scotland (GM) mailing list were told | |
4 (2023-11-17), in regard to | |
5 | |
6 "(1) The possibility of merging our existing 6 charities into a | |
7 single body, Quakers in Scotland. | |
8 | |
9 "(2) How we might organise all our concerns and worship more | |
10 effectively as a single charity." | |
11 | |
12 that | |
13 | |
14 "The first step for (1) is to agree a governing document to replace | |
15 the six comparable documents that apply to our existing charities." | |
16 | |
17 and | |
18 | |
19 "Friends will hear more requests soon to join in important | |
20 discussions relating to (2)." | |
21 | |
22 I've searched my inbox without success for any request to "join in | |
23 important discussions relating to (2)" until, possibly, the invitation | |
24 from QiS-CG (2024-03-11) to two "information and discussion sessions | |
25 on progress with work towards having a single body and charity for | |
26 Quakers in Scotland". | |
27 | |
28 However the cover letter from QiS (2024-01-06) sent to SESAM Trustees | |
29 says | |
30 | |
31 "The Options for Scotland group [proposes] that we form a single | |
32 charity and that we form a single body. The idea of a single body | |
33 clearly needs more work to discern what this might look like. It | |
34 will take time. That idea is not part of what we are asking you | |
35 about here." | |
36 | |
37 In fact the document laid before us in the special Area Meeting on | |
38 15 January (Draft of 2023 12 29c.docx) had a lot to say about the | |
39 body. Or did it? As I read it at the time it did't clearly | |
40 distinguish between the charity and the body, using the phrase | |
41 "Quakers in Scotland" in what I found to be confusing ways. | |
42 | |
43 A new draft (Draft of 2024 03 21.docx) has just been made available, | |
44 with only modest changes from the earlier draft. I'll take it as | |
45 definitive with respect to what we will have before us on 6 April. | |
46 It hasn't changed much, if anything, of what I've found that makes me | |
47 uneasy about agreeing to adopt it. | |
48 | |
49 More background: What do we already have as models for how charities | |
50 and their trustees work. I'm reasonably familiar with two examples, | |
51 which guide my thinking in this matter. | |
52 | |
53 1. The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Britain, and Britain | |
54 Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), | |
55 Charity number: 1127633 | |
56 | |
57 The governing document for the latter charity | |
58 (https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/bym-governing-document-revised-min34-bym2014) | |
59 begins with the following definitions: | |
60 | |
61 *Definitions* | |
62 | |
63 a. The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Britain refers to | |
64 the church in England, Scotland, Wales, the Channel Islands and | |
65 the Isle of Man, including all its local meetings for worship and | |
66 its constituent meetings for church affairs as well as all their | |
67 work [referred to below as *the Society*]. | |
68 | |
69 b. Britain Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends | |
70 (Quakers) [*Britain Yearly Meeting*] refers to the centrally held | |
71 and managed policy, property, employment and work of the charity | |
72 constituted by this document. | |
73 | |
74 c. Yearly Meeting in session [*Yearly Meeting*] refers to the annual | |
75 assembly that is open to all members of the Society. | |
76 | |
77 d. Area Meetings are the main local meetings for church affairs and | |
78 these are the level of the Society at which individual membership | |
79 is held. Each Area Meeting is a separate charitable entity and | |
80 may be registered as such with the Charity Commission. | |
81 | |
82 e. _Quaker faith & practice_ is the current edition of the Book of | |
83 Christian discipline of the Religious Society of Friends | |
84 (Quakers) in Britain | |
85 | |
86 f. Meeting for Sufferings is the standing representative body of the Society. | |
87 | |
88 g. The term Friend refers to a member of the Society. | |
89 | |
90 * Highlighting added | |
91 | |
92 Note that there are two clearly distinguished entities, "the church" | |
93 and "the charity". The charity is governed by the above referenced | |
94 governing document, the church by the Red Book. | |
95 | |
96 Subsequent articles make clear that the Society, embodied in Yearly | |
97 Meeting in session and Meeting for Sufferings, is responsible for | |
98 amending the governing document, appointing Britain Yearly Meeting | |
99 trustees, approving their terms of reference and appointing their | |
100 clerks and treasurer. | |
101 | |
102 2. Area meetings in Scotland governing documents | |
103 | |
104 * North of Scotland Quaker Trust is evidently distinct from NSAM, but | |
105 I haven't found a governing document. | |
106 | |
107 * The governing document for the Religious Society of Friends | |
108 (Quakers) [in Britain] East Scotland Area Meeting (abbreviated as | |
109 East Scotland Area Meeting) does not make any overt distinction | |
110 between the charity and the church, although the phrases "(East | |
111 Scotland) Area Meeting in session" clearly refer to the church, and | |
112 in "3. Object The object of East Scotland Area Meeting" it is | |
113 evidently the charity. | |
114 | |
115 This sentence is of note: "If at a meeting of East Scotland Area | |
116 Meeting the members decide that it is necessary or advisable to | |
117 dissolve the Area Meeting or to amalgamate with another Area | |
118 Meeting _and this is agreed by Meeting for Sufferings_, the | |
119 trustees shall have the power to realise any assets held by or on | |
120 behalf of the Area Meeting." [Emphasis added] | |
121 | |
122 * The governing document for the Religious Society of Friends | |
123 (Quakers) in Britain: South East Scotland Area Meeting [referred to | |
124 below as South East Scotland Area Meeting or the area meeting and | |
125 formerly known as South East Scotland Monthly Meeting] likewise | |
126 does not make any overt distinction between the church and the | |
127 charity, to my embarassment. "Subject to the matters set out below | |
128 the resources of the area meeting shall be administered in | |
129 accordance with this governing document by the trustees..." is | |
130 clearly talking about the charity, whereas "Amendments to this | |
131 governing document shall be agreed by South East Scotland Area | |
132 Meeting in session and recorded by minute of the area meeting." | |
133 it's the church. The dissolution clause is the same as for East | |
134 Scotland above. | |
135 | |
136 * I can't find a governing document for whatever charity is | |
137 associated with West of Scotland | |
138 | |
139 * Dundee Friends Property Trust | |
140 | |
141 * General Meeting for Scotland | |
142 | |
143 Registering officers | |
144 Prison visitors |