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author Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
date Wed, 27 Mar 2024 13:24:18 +0000
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96 Subsequent articles make clear that the Society, embodied in Yearly 96 Subsequent articles make clear that the Society, embodied in Yearly
97 Meeting in session and Meeting for Sufferings, is responsible for 97 Meeting in session and Meeting for Sufferings, is responsible for
98 amending the governing document, appointing Britain Yearly Meeting 98 amending the governing document, appointing Britain Yearly Meeting
99 trustees, approving their terms of reference and appointing their 99 trustees, approving their terms of reference and appointing their
100 clerks and treasurer. 100 clerks, among them the BYM Treasurer.
101 101
102 2. Area meetings in Scotland governing documents 102 2. Area meetings in Scotland governing documents
103 103
104 * North of Scotland Quaker Trust is evidently distinct from NSAM, but 104 * North of Scotland Quaker Trust is evidently distinct from NSAM, but
105 I haven't found a governing document. 105 I haven't found a governing document.
106 106
107 * The governing document for the Religious Society of Friends 107 * The governing document for the Religious Society of Friends
108 (Quakers) [in Britain] East Scotland Area Meeting (abbreviated as 108 (Quakers) [in Britain] East Scotland Area Meeting (abbreviated as
109 East Scotland Area Meeting) does not make any overt distinction 109 East Scotland Area Meeting) is based on the template provided by
110 between the charity and the church, although the phrases "(East 110 Quaker Life
111 (https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/governing-document-for-am-cc-approved-11-2022-final).
112 The template does not make any overt distinction between the church
113 and the charity, to my embarassment. However the phrases "(East
111 Scotland) Area Meeting in session" clearly refer to the church, and 114 Scotland) Area Meeting in session" clearly refer to the church, and
112 in "3. Object The object of East Scotland Area Meeting" it is 115 in "3. Object The object of East Scotland Area Meeting" it is
113 evidently the charity. 116 evidently the charity.
114 117
115 This sentence is of note: "If at a meeting of East Scotland Area 118 This sentence, taken unchanged from the template, is of note: "If
116 Meeting the members decide that it is necessary or advisable to 119 at a meeting of East Scotland Area Meeting the members decide that
117 dissolve the Area Meeting or to amalgamate with another Area 120 it is necessary or advisable to dissolve the Area Meeting or to
118 Meeting _and this is agreed by Meeting for Sufferings_, the 121 amalgamate with another Area Meeting _and this is agreed by Meeting
119 trustees shall have the power to realise any assets held by or on 122 for Sufferings_, the trustees shall have the power to realise any
120 behalf of the Area Meeting." [Emphasis added] 123 assets held by or on behalf of the Area Meeting. Any assets
124 remaining after the satisfaction of any proper debts and
125 liabilities shall, _with the agreement of Meeting for Sufferings_, be
126 given or transferred to another Area Meeting, to Britain Yearly
127 Meeting, or to some other charitable institution or institutions
128 having objects similar to that of the area meeting and failing that
129 for such other charitable purpose as Britain Yearly Meeting shall
130 direct." [Emphasis added]
121 131
122 * The governing document for the Religious Society of Friends 132 * The governing document for the Religious Society of Friends
123 (Quakers) in Britain: South East Scotland Area Meeting [referred to 133 (Quakers) in Britain: South East Scotland Area Meeting [referred to
124 below as South East Scotland Area Meeting or the area meeting and 134 below as South East Scotland Area Meeting or the area meeting and
125 formerly known as South East Scotland Monthly Meeting] likewise 135 formerly known as South East Scotland Monthly Meeting] likewise is
126 does not make any overt distinction between the church and the 136 based on the Quaker Life template. "Subject to the matters set out
127 charity, to my embarassment. "Subject to the matters set out below 137 below the resources of the area meeting shall be administered in
128 the resources of the area meeting shall be administered in
129 accordance with this governing document by the trustees..." is 138 accordance with this governing document by the trustees..." is
130 clearly talking about the charity, whereas "Amendments to this 139 clearly talking about the charity, whereas "Amendments to this
131 governing document shall be agreed by South East Scotland Area 140 governing document shall be agreed by South East Scotland Area
132 Meeting in session and recorded by minute of the area meeting." 141 Meeting in session and recorded by minute of the area meeting."
133 it's the church. The dissolution clause is the same as for East 142 it's the church. The dissolution clause is again taken from the
134 Scotland above. 143 template, with the addition of GM for Scotland to the allowed
144 dispositions.
135 145
136 * I can't find a governing document for whatever charity is 146 * I can't find a governing document for whatever charity is
137 associated with West of Scotland 147 associated with West of Scotland
138 148
139 * Dundee Friends Property Trust 149 * Dundee Friends Property Trust was governed by a 130-odd-year-old deed
150 of trust, now superseded in 2009 by a governing document, which I
151 can't find online. From the 2020 Annual Report:
152
153 "New trustees are appointed by the remaining trustees, who are
154 bound to select individuals in sympathy with the conditions of
155 the original Trust Deed and who shall, if possible, be
156 representative of Dundee Local Meeting. The majority of Trustees
157 shall be drawn from Dundee Local Meeting."
140 158
141 * General Meeting for Scotland 159 * General Meeting for Scotland
142 160
161 * The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Wales and the Marches
162 - Cymdeithas Grefyddol y Cyfeillion (Crynwyr) yng Nghymru a’r
163 Gororau [know as Cynar] is a Charitable Incorporated Organisation
164 (CIO, comparable to an SCIO). Its constitution (Linked from
165 https://www.symudymlaen2.org/) says that the members of the CIO are
166 "all members of the Constituent Area Meetings". The constitution
167 describes "General meetings of the members of the CIO", and
168 mandates at least an Annual General Meeting. The clerks of the
169 Constituent Bodies (the AMs and CCQW) constitute the "clerking
170 team" who set the agenda for GMs and provide a clerk for each of
171 them from among their number. At least two members from each
172 Constituent Body must be present for a GM to be quorate. The
173 Convenors of the NomComms of the COnstituent bodies constitute a
174 NomComm for the CIO, and prepare nominations for the trustees and
175 the Treasurer. There must be at least one trustee from each
176 Constituent Body.
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178 I'm told that "AM trustees will cease to exist, Cymar trustees will
179 fulfil the role of AM trustees, but for all 4 AMs and CCQW, so once
180 the assets have been handed over, bank accounts closed down and
181 final report and accounts prepared, then they can be released by
182 their respective AMs and leave the rest to [Cymar] to deal with."
183
184 It's not clear to me how this accords with QF&P 4.02
185 (https://qfp.quaker.org.uk/passage/4-02/) which says "Each area
186 meeting is a separate charitable entity and it may be required to
187 be registered as such with the relevant charity regulator. Area
188 meetings which are registered or preparing for registration will
189 operate under a formal governing document, which amongst other
190 matters should set out the arrangements for trusteeship."
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143 Registering officers 193 Registering officers
144 Prison visitors 194 Prison visitors