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more background, TL;DR
author Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk>
date Thu, 28 Mar 2024 11:07:08 +0000
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1 A bit of history, to set the scene. 1 I have struggled at the last two threshing meetings about the proposed
2 governing document for Quakers in Scotland (QiS) to adequately convey
3 my concerns. This document attempts to do better, not only with
4 respect to what I think is wrong, but also by suggesting how it could
5 be fixed.
6
7 It's not short, and there's an even longer appendix of background
8 detail, so here's the punchline:
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10 SESAM Trustees should advise SESAM that SESAM _should not_ agree to
11 joining QiS without substantial changes to the governing document,
12 distinguishing between the charity and the church and making their
13 relationship explicit, following the model of the governing document
14 for Britain Yearly Meeting (the charity).
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17 Some extensive background, which has informed my thinking. Thanks to
18 Jackie Noltingk, Erica Thomas and Lesley Richards for helpful answers
19 to my questions.
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3 The General Meeting for Scotland (GM) mailing list were told 21 The General Meeting for Scotland (GM) mailing list were told
4 (2023-11-17), in regard to 22 (2023-11-17), in regard to
5 23
6 "(1) The possibility of merging our existing 6 charities into a 24 "(1) The possibility of merging our existing 6 charities into a
188 meetings which are registered or preparing for registration will 206 meetings which are registered or preparing for registration will
189 operate under a formal governing document, which amongst other 207 operate under a formal governing document, which amongst other
190 matters should set out the arrangements for trusteeship." 208 matters should set out the arrangements for trusteeship."
191 209
192 210
211 Prison Chaplains
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213 QF&P (13.54) gives area meetings responsibility for appointing prison
214 chaplains and "General Meeting for Scotland is responsible for
215 providing [their names] to the governors of all prison establishments
216 in the area meeting area".
217
193 Registering officers 218 Registering officers
194 Prison visitors 219
220 A similar story, without the involvement of GM, obtains for
221 registering officers. "Each area meeting shall appoint a suitable
222 Friend as registering officer ... the area meeting ... shall report
223 [the appointment] to the Recording Clerk without delay, by minute
224 signed by the clerk ... The Recording Clerk is required to certify all
225 such appointments ... in Scotland, to the Registrar General for
226 Scotland"; "The registering officer, acting on behalf of the area
227 meeting, ..." (QF&P 16.22,23)
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