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author | Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> |
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date | Mon, 01 Apr 2024 13:18:48 +0100 |
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177 <div> | 177 <div> |
178 <title>Some extensive background, which has informed my thinking.</title> | 178 <title>Some extensive background, which has informed my thinking.</title> |
179 <p>Thanks to Jackie Noltingk, Erica Thomas and Lesley Richards for | 179 <p>Thanks to Jackie Noltingk, Erica Thomas and Lesley Richards for |
180 helpful answers to my questions, and to Kathryn Gulliver and Piers Voysey for sending | 180 helpful answers to my questions, and to Kathryn Gulliver and Piers Voysey for sending |
181 me copies of their AM's governing documents.</p> | 181 me copies of their AM's governing documents.</p> |
182 <p>The General Meeting for Scotland (GM) mailing list were told | 182 <div> |
183 <title>Mostly about QiS</title> | |
184 <p>The General Meeting for Scotland (GM) mailing list were told | |
183 (2023-11-17), in regard to</p> | 185 (2023-11-17), in regard to</p> |
184 <p> "(1) The possibility of merging our existing 6 charities into a | 186 <p> "(1) The possibility of merging our existing 6 charities into a |
185 single body, Quakers in Scotland.</p> | 187 single body, Quakers in Scotland.</p> |
186 <p> "(2) How we might organise all our concerns and worship more | 188 <p> "(2) How we might organise all our concerns and worship more |
187 effectively as a single charity."</p> | 189 effectively as a single charity."</p> |
210 "Quakers in Scotland" in what I found to be confusing ways.</p> | 212 "Quakers in Scotland" in what I found to be confusing ways.</p> |
211 <p>A new draft (Draft of 2024 03 21.docx) has just been made available, | 213 <p>A new draft (Draft of 2024 03 21.docx) has just been made available, |
212 with only modest changes from the earlier draft. I'll take it as | 214 with only modest changes from the earlier draft. I'll take it as |
213 definitive with respect to what we will have before us on 6 April. | 215 definitive with respect to what we will have before us on 6 April. |
214 It hasn't changed much, if anything, of what I've found that makes me | 216 It hasn't changed much, if anything, of what I've found that makes me |
215 uneasy about agreeing to adopt it.</p> | 217 uneasy about agreeing to adopt it.</p></div> |
216 <p>More background: What do we already have as models for how charities | 218 <div> |
217 and their trustees work. I'm reasonably familiar with two examples, | 219 <title>Existing models of church and charity structures</title> |
218 which guide my thinking in this matter.</p> | 220 <div> |
219 <p>1. The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Britain, and Britain | 221 <title>Britain Yearly Meeting</title> |
222 <p>The charity is Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Britain, and Britain | |
220 Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), | 223 Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers), |
221 Charity number: 1127633</p> | 224 Charity number: 1127633</p> |
222 <p>The governing document for the latter charity | 225 <p>The governing document for this |
223 (<link href="https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/bym-governing-document-revised-min34-bym2014">https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/bym-governing-document-revised-min34-bym2014</link>) | 226 (<link href="https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/bym-governing-document-revised-min34-bym2014">https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/bym-governing-document-revised-min34-bym2014</link>) |
224 begins with the following definitions:</p> | 227 begins with the following definitions:</p> |
225 <list type="enum" class="alpha"> | 228 <list type="enum" class="alpha"> |
226 <item>The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Britain refers to | 229 <item>The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Britain refers to |
227 the church in England, Scotland, Wales, the Channel Islands and | 230 the church in England, Scotland, Wales, the Channel Islands and |
241 <item><emph>Quaker faith & practice</emph> is the current edition of the Book of | 244 <item><emph>Quaker faith & practice</emph> is the current edition of the Book of |
242 Christian discipline of the Religious Society of Friends | 245 Christian discipline of the Religious Society of Friends |
243 (Quakers) in Britain</item> | 246 (Quakers) in Britain</item> |
244 <item>Meeting for Sufferings is the standing representative body of the Society.</item> | 247 <item>Meeting for Sufferings is the standing representative body of the Society.</item> |
245 <item>The term Friend refers to a member of the Society.</item> | 248 <item>The term Friend refers to a member of the Society.</item> |
246 </list><p>* Highlighting added</p> | 249 </list> |
247 <p>Note that there are two clearly distinguished entities, "the church" | 250 <p>Note that there are two clearly distinguished entities, "the church" |
248 and "the charity". The charity is governed by the above referenced | 251 and "the charity". The charity is governed by the above referenced |
249 governing document, the church by the Red Book.</p> | 252 governing document, the church by the Red Book.</p> |
250 <p>Subsequent articles make clear that the Society, embodied in Yearly | 253 <p>Subsequent articles make clear that the Society, embodied in Yearly |
251 Meeting in session and Meeting for Sufferings, is responsible for | 254 Meeting in session and Meeting for Sufferings, is responsible for |
252 amending the governing document, appointing Britain Yearly Meeting | 255 amending the governing document, appointing Britain Yearly Meeting |
253 trustees, approving their terms of reference and appointing their | 256 trustees, approving their terms of reference and appointing their |
254 clerks, among them the BYM Treasurer.</p> | 257 clerks, among them the BYM Treasurer.</p> |
255 <p>2. Area meetings in Scotland governing documents</p> | 258 </div> |
256 <p> * The governing document for the Religious Society of Friends | 259 <div> |
260 <title>East of Scotland</title> | |
261 <p>The governing document for the Religious Society of Friends | |
257 (Quakers) [in Britain] East Scotland Area Meeting (abbreviated as | 262 (Quakers) [in Britain] East Scotland Area Meeting (abbreviated as |
258 East Scotland Area Meeting) is based on the template provided by | 263 East Scotland Area Meeting) is based on the template provided by |
259 Quaker Life | 264 Quaker Life |
260 (<link href="https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/governing-document-for-am-cc-approved-11-2022-final">https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/governing-document-for-am-cc-approved-11-2022-final</link>). | 265 (<link href="https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/governing-document-for-am-cc-approved-11-2022-final">https://www.quaker.org.uk/documents/governing-document-for-am-cc-approved-11-2022-final</link>). |
261 The template does not make any overt distinction between the church | 266 The template does not make any overt distinction between the church |
262 and the charity, to my embarassment. However the phrases "(East | 267 and the charity, to my embarassment. However the phrases "(East |
263 Scotland) Area Meeting in session" clearly refer to the church, and | 268 Scotland) Area Meeting in session" clearly refer to the church, and |
264 in "3. Object The object of East Scotland Area Meeting" it is | 269 in "3. Object The object of East Scotland Area Meeting" it is |
265 evidently the charity.</p> | 270 evidently the charity.</p> |
266 <p> This sentence, taken unchanged from the template, is of note: "If | 271 <p>This sentence, taken unchanged from the template, is of note: "If |
267 at a meeting of East Scotland Area Meeting the members decide that | 272 at a meeting of East Scotland Area Meeting the members decide that |
268 it is necessary or advisable to dissolve the Area Meeting or to | 273 it is necessary or advisable to dissolve the Area Meeting or to |
269 amalgamate with another Area Meeting <emph>and this is agreed by Meeting | 274 amalgamate with another Area Meeting <emph>and this is agreed by Meeting |
270 for Sufferings</emph>, the trustees shall have the power to realise any | 275 for Sufferings</emph>, the trustees shall have the power to realise any |
271 assets held by or on behalf of the Area Meeting. Any assets | 276 assets held by or on behalf of the Area Meeting. Any assets |
273 liabilities shall, <emph>with the agreement of Meeting for Sufferings</emph>, be | 278 liabilities shall, <emph>with the agreement of Meeting for Sufferings</emph>, be |
274 given or transferred to another Area Meeting, to Britain Yearly | 279 given or transferred to another Area Meeting, to Britain Yearly |
275 Meeting, or to some other charitable institution or institutions | 280 Meeting, or to some other charitable institution or institutions |
276 having objects similar to that of the area meeting and failing that | 281 having objects similar to that of the area meeting and failing that |
277 for such other charitable purpose as Britain Yearly Meeting shall | 282 for such other charitable purpose as Britain Yearly Meeting shall |
278 direct." [Emphasis added]</p> | 283 direct." [Emphasis added]</p></div> |
279 <p> * The governing document for the Religious Society of Friends | 284 <div> |
285 <title>South East Scotland</title> | |
286 <p>The governing document for the Religious Society of Friends | |
280 (Quakers) in Britain: South East Scotland Area Meeting [referred to | 287 (Quakers) in Britain: South East Scotland Area Meeting [referred to |
281 below as South East Scotland Area Meeting or the area meeting and | 288 below as South East Scotland Area Meeting or the area meeting and |
282 formerly known as South East Scotland Monthly Meeting] likewise is | 289 formerly known as South East Scotland Monthly Meeting] likewise is |
283 based on the Quaker Life template. "Subject to the matters set out | 290 based on the Quaker Life template. "Subject to the matters set out |
284 below the resources of the area meeting shall be administered in | 291 below the resources of the area meeting shall be administered in |
287 governing document shall be agreed by South East Scotland Area | 294 governing document shall be agreed by South East Scotland Area |
288 Meeting in session and recorded by minute of the area meeting." | 295 Meeting in session and recorded by minute of the area meeting." |
289 it's the church. The dissolution clause is again taken from the | 296 it's the church. The dissolution clause is again taken from the |
290 template, with the addition of GM for Scotland to the allowed | 297 template, with the addition of GM for Scotland to the allowed |
291 dispositions.</p> | 298 dispositions.</p> |
292 <p> * Dundee Friends Property Trust was governed by a 130-odd-year-old deed | 299 </div> |
293 of trust, now superseded in 2009 by a governing document, which I | 300 <div> |
301 <title>Dundee Friends Property Trust</title> | |
302 <p>This was governed by a 130-odd-year-old deed | |
303 of trust, superseded in 2009 by a governing document, which I | |
294 can't find online. From the 2020 Annual Report:</p> | 304 can't find online. From the 2020 Annual Report:</p> |
295 <p> "New trustees are appointed by the remaining trustees, who are | 305 <p>"New trustees are appointed by the remaining trustees, who are |
296 bound to select individuals in sympathy with the conditions of | 306 bound to select individuals in sympathy with the conditions of |
297 the original Trust Deed and who shall, if possible, be | 307 the original Trust Deed and who shall, if possible, be |
298 representative of Dundee Local Meeting. The majority of Trustees | 308 representative of Dundee Local Meeting. The majority of Trustees |
299 shall be drawn from Dundee Local Meeting."</p> | 309 shall be drawn from Dundee Local Meeting."</p> |
300 <p> * North of Scotland AM is also based on the Quaker Life template. | 310 </div> |
311 <div> | |
312 <title>North of Scotland</title> | |
313 <p>Their governing document is also based on the Quaker Life template. | |
301 Stewardship of North of Scotland Quaker Trust is identified as a | 314 Stewardship of North of Scotland Quaker Trust is identified as a |
302 responsibility of NSAM Trustees in their Terms of Reference.</p> | 315 responsibility of NSAM Trustees in their Terms of Reference.</p> |
303 <p> * General Meeting for Scotland</p> | 316 </div> |
304 <p> * The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Wales and the Marches | 317 <div> |
318 <title>General Meeting for Scotland</title> | |
319 </div> | |
320 </div> | |
321 <div> | |
322 <title>The new structure for Wales and the Southern Marches</title> | |
323 <p>The Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) in Wales and the Marches | |
305 - Cymdeithas Grefyddol y Cyfeillion (Crynwyr) yng Nghymru a’r | 324 - Cymdeithas Grefyddol y Cyfeillion (Crynwyr) yng Nghymru a’r |
306 Gororau [know as Cynar] is a Charitable Incorporated Organisation | 325 Gororau [know as Cynar] is a Charitable Incorporated Organisation |
307 (CIO, comparable to an <name>SCIO</name>). Its constitution (Linked from | 326 (CIO, comparable to an <name>SCIO</name>). Its constitution (Linked from |
308 <link href="https://www.symudymlaen2.org/">https://www.symudymlaen2.org/</link>) says that the members of the CIO are | 327 <link href="https://www.symudymlaen2.org/">https://www.symudymlaen2.org/</link>) says that the members of the CIO are |
309 "all members of the Constituent Area Meetings". The constitution | 328 "all members of the Constituent Area Meetings". The constitution |
328 be registered as such with the relevant charity regulator. Area | 347 be registered as such with the relevant charity regulator. Area |
329 meetings which are registered or preparing for registration will | 348 meetings which are registered or preparing for registration will |
330 operate under a formal governing document, which amongst other | 349 operate under a formal governing document, which amongst other |
331 matters should set out the arrangements for trusteeship." | 350 matters should set out the arrangements for trusteeship." |
332 </p> | 351 </p> |
352 </div> | |
333 <p>Prison Chaplains</p> | 353 <p>Prison Chaplains</p> |
334 <p>QF&P (13.54) gives area meetings responsibility for appointing prison | 354 <p>QF&P (13.54) gives area meetings responsibility for appointing prison |
335 chaplains and "General Meeting for Scotland is responsible for | 355 chaplains and "General Meeting for Scotland is responsible for |
336 providing [their names] to the governors of all prison establishments | 356 providing [their names] to the governors of all prison establishments |
337 in the area meeting area".</p> | 357 in the area meeting area".</p> |