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51 support sustainability. Concern was expressed by myself and others 51 support sustainability. Concern was expressed by myself and others
52 that giving responsibility for overseeing this coordination to 52 that giving responsibility for overseeing this coordination to
53 Sufferings without any detail on how this to be carried out leaves a 53 Sufferings without any detail on how this to be carried out leaves a
54 very significant gap and risks simply recreating the SG under another 54 very significant gap and risks simply recreating the SG under another
55 name. Actually deciding to lay the SG down without a clear picture of 55 name. Actually deciding to lay the SG down without a clear picture of
56 what's going to take it place seems premature. 56 what's going to take it place seems premature, and was in the end not
57 supported by MfS, which _did_ support the recommendation for "a
58 specially convened meeting/meetings of the clerks of BYMSG, QPSWCC,
59 ESP sub-committee, QLCC, QSC, BYM Trustees, the Board of Friends House
60 Hospitality, MfS and all members of Management Meeting," after which
61 we will need to come back to the question of the future for SG and/or
62 the form of its replacement.
57 63
58 The need for a clearer articulation of the largely unspoken spiritual 64 The need for a clearer articulation of the largely unspoken spiritual
59 basis for the Commitment was raised. 65 basis for the Commitment was raised.
60 66
61 The oft-remarked tension resurfaced between a feeling on the part of 67 The oft-remarked tension resurfaced between a feeling on the part of
62 many that we ought to put sustainability at the centre of our efforts 68 many that we ought to put sustainability at the centre of our efforts
63 and a recognition that many others who don't seem to be interested in 69 and a recognition that many others don't seem to be interested in
64 doing so. 70 doing so.
65 71
66 Some quotes from the floor: 72 Some quotes from the floor:
67 73
68 "It's not surprising that we struggle, and blame each other, and get 74 "It's not surprising that we struggle, and blame each other, and get
69 stuck." (Laurie Michaelis) 75 stuck." (Laurie Michaelis)
70 76
71 "This is the biggest thing we've ever tried to deal with." 77 "This is the biggest thing we've ever tried to deal with." (Laurie Michaelis)
72 78
73 "Giving responsibility but no authority to working groups [such as 79 "Giving responsibility but no authority to working groups [such as
74 SG] is Kafkaesque, not Quakerly" 80 SG] is Kafkaesque, not Quakerly" (Lis Burch)
75 81
76 "How do we connect a BYM Concern with [the priorities and funding 82 "How do we connect a BYM Concern with [the priorities and funding
77 choices] of the centrally-managed work]." (Lis Burch) 83 choices] of the centrally-managed work]." (Lis Burch)
78 84
79 "What is it that has caused us to try to do this and fail 5 times?" 85 "What is it that has caused us to try to do this and fail 5 times?"
86 (Peter Morris)
80 87
81 [Testimonies C'tee to Sufferings in 2007?] 88 [Testimonies C'tee to Sufferings in 2007?]
89
90 *Restoring Integrity to the Public Sphere*
91
92 We were asked to consider a concern from an AM on this topic, which
93 asked whether BYM should be a "public champion of truth"?
94
95 We've had a testimony to truth since the 17th century, but the more
96 recent, complex, history to our recent engagement with this issue
97 begins in 1990 with a concern which created a "Truth and Integrity in
98 Public Affairs" programme. This was laid down in 2004.
99
100 We agreed to ask for input on this from Area Meetings, regarding both
101 difficulties experienced and actions being taken.