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51 support sustainability. Concern was expressed by myself and others | 51 support sustainability. Concern was expressed by myself and others |
52 that giving responsibility for overseeing this coordination to | 52 that giving responsibility for overseeing this coordination to |
53 Sufferings without any detail on how this to be carried out leaves a | 53 Sufferings without any detail on how this to be carried out leaves a |
54 very significant gap and risks simply recreating the SG under another | 54 very significant gap and risks simply recreating the SG under another |
55 name. Actually deciding to lay the SG down without a clear picture of | 55 name. Actually deciding to lay the SG down without a clear picture of |
56 what's going to take it place seems premature. | 56 what's going to take it place seems premature, and was in the end not |
57 supported by MfS, which _did_ support the recommendation for "a | |
58 specially convened meeting/meetings of the clerks of BYMSG, QPSWCC, | |
59 ESP sub-committee, QLCC, QSC, BYM Trustees, the Board of Friends House | |
60 Hospitality, MfS and all members of Management Meeting," after which | |
61 we will need to come back to the question of the future for SG and/or | |
62 the form of its replacement. | |
57 | 63 |
58 The need for a clearer articulation of the largely unspoken spiritual | 64 The need for a clearer articulation of the largely unspoken spiritual |
59 basis for the Commitment was raised. | 65 basis for the Commitment was raised. |
60 | 66 |
61 The oft-remarked tension resurfaced between a feeling on the part of | 67 The oft-remarked tension resurfaced between a feeling on the part of |
62 many that we ought to put sustainability at the centre of our efforts | 68 many that we ought to put sustainability at the centre of our efforts |
63 and a recognition that many others who don't seem to be interested in | 69 and a recognition that many others don't seem to be interested in |
64 doing so. | 70 doing so. |
65 | 71 |
66 Some quotes from the floor: | 72 Some quotes from the floor: |
67 | 73 |
68 "It's not surprising that we struggle, and blame each other, and get | 74 "It's not surprising that we struggle, and blame each other, and get |
69 stuck." (Laurie Michaelis) | 75 stuck." (Laurie Michaelis) |
70 | 76 |
71 "This is the biggest thing we've ever tried to deal with." | 77 "This is the biggest thing we've ever tried to deal with." (Laurie Michaelis) |
72 | 78 |
73 "Giving responsibility but no authority to working groups [such as | 79 "Giving responsibility but no authority to working groups [such as |
74 SG] is Kafkaesque, not Quakerly" | 80 SG] is Kafkaesque, not Quakerly" (Lis Burch) |
75 | 81 |
76 "How do we connect a BYM Concern with [the priorities and funding | 82 "How do we connect a BYM Concern with [the priorities and funding |
77 choices] of the centrally-managed work]." (Lis Burch) | 83 choices] of the centrally-managed work]." (Lis Burch) |
78 | 84 |
79 "What is it that has caused us to try to do this and fail 5 times?" | 85 "What is it that has caused us to try to do this and fail 5 times?" |
86 (Peter Morris) | |
80 | 87 |
81 [Testimonies C'tee to Sufferings in 2007?] | 88 [Testimonies C'tee to Sufferings in 2007?] |
89 | |
90 *Restoring Integrity to the Public Sphere* | |
91 | |
92 We were asked to consider a concern from an AM on this topic, which | |
93 asked whether BYM should be a "public champion of truth"? | |
94 | |
95 We've had a testimony to truth since the 17th century, but the more | |
96 recent, complex, history to our recent engagement with this issue | |
97 begins in 1990 with a concern which created a "Truth and Integrity in | |
98 Public Affairs" programme. This was laid down in 2004. | |
99 | |
100 We agreed to ask for input on this from Area Meetings, regarding both | |
101 difficulties experienced and actions being taken. |