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SM part 2 20 mins
| author | Henry S. Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> |
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| date | Tue, 06 Jul 2021 22:46:19 +0100 |
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| 351 ========================== | 351 ========================== |
| 352 Stuart Masters _The Early Quakers_ | 352 Stuart Masters _The Early Quakers_ |
| 353 ========================== | 353 ========================== |
| 354 | 354 |
| 355 --------------- Video 1 --------- | 355 --------------- SM Video 1 --------- |
| 356 Mainstream Puritanism at the start of the Quaker period is quite | 356 Mainstream Puritanism at the start of the Quaker period is quite |
| 357 straight Calvanism, with predestination of the Elect as the core. | 357 straight Calvanism, with predestination of the Elect as the core. |
| 358 | 358 |
| 359 Radical Puritanism, in contract, really experiencing and knowing God | 359 Radical Puritanism, in contract, really experiencing and knowing God |
| 360 within yourself, shared with the early Quaker vision. | 360 within yourself, shared with the early Quaker vision. |
| 603 in 1642 the outbreak of the Civil War, and the falling away of the | 603 in 1642 the outbreak of the Civil War, and the falling away of the |
| 604 power of the Church and censorship in that situation, releases all a | 604 power of the Church and censorship in that situation, releases all a |
| 605 pent-up explosion of what had been repressed and you get the | 605 pent-up explosion of what had been repressed and you get the |
| 606 proliferation of sects [including Quakers]. | 606 proliferation of sects [including Quakers]. |
| 607 | 607 |
| 608 --------------- SM Video 2 --------- | |
| 609 | |
| 610 So what? | |
| 611 | |
| 612 Earthly authority and structures are not eternal | |
| 613 | |
| 614 Social divisions and hierarchy are a consequence of the Fall | |
| 615 | |
| 616 Those who set themselves above others and demand deference are guilty | |
| 617 of idolatry [wrt of a _human_ creation] | |
| 618 | |
| 619 However because _everything_ is changing, there's no particular | |
| 620 impetus towards planning, putting together a program of _earthly_ | |
| 621 changes. | |
| 622 | |
| 623 "The first man is proud and lofty, exalted above his brethren, a | |
| 624 self-lover, lives to the flesh, and follows the lusts of the flesh | |
| 625 in all things, and brings forth fruit to the flesh in all | |
| 626 things,... | |
| 627 | |
| 628 "The second man is humble and lowly, meek and full of love to all, | |
| 629 honors all men according to God, without respect of persons, would | |
| 630 have all to come to life, stands in the wisdom of God which is pure | |
| 631 and peaceable, is willing to be a fool to the world and serpent's | |
| 632 wisdom, content to suffer wrongs, buffetings, persecutions, | |
| 633 slanders, reviling, mocking, without seeking revenge, but bears all | |
| 634 the venom the serpent can cast upon him with patience and thereby | |
| 635 overcomes him and bruises his head, and is made perfect through | |
| 636 suffering, and counts it joy, and rejoices in the cross and loss of | |
| 637 all things that are visible, but looks at that which is eternal, | |
| 638 for he knows that he cannot have both; for to be a friend to the | |
| 639 world is the enemy of God." | |
| 640 | |
| 641 James Nayler _A Discovery of the First Wisdom from Beneath and the | |
| 642 Second Wisdom from Above_ 1653 [first single-authored publication] | |
| 643 http://www.qhpress.org/texts/nayler/1wisdom.html | |
| 644 | |
| 645 "God is against you... [7 times!]" | |
| 646 James Nayler ibid. | |
| 647 | |
| 648 [The Church [the bride of Christ] should remain silent so that Christ | |
| 649 [the husband] can be heard] | |
| 650 | |
| 651 Paused at 20:37 |