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6 <title>Transcription of comments on 7VT Futures questionnaires</title>
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7 <author>Henry S. Thompson</author>
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8 <date>4 May 2009</date>
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12 <title>Anon</title>
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14 <item term="3">Improving with the reopening of the terrace.</item>
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15 <item term="4">An alternative access [to the creche?] avoiding the kitchen
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16 would help. Improve toilets.</item>
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17 <item term="12">An alternative access to the rooms/space beyond the kitchen
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18 would be good. This would improve kitchen safety and make the additional space
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19 more usable for group use. Perhaps improvements to the toilets are needed.</item>
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20 <item term="13">
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22 <item>Improvements do have cost implications. Could we ask
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23 Festival Committee to identify Meeting House improvements as one of the fund
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24 raising projects (as we did for Kelso Meeting House & the Foyer upgrade)
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25 over say 3 years.</item>
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26 <item>The Meeting House is a great space, with flexibility having some larger
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27 and smaller areas. The availability for outreach here is so important. A
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28 window in the city and affordable lettings for groups that might find
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29 alternatives difficult.</item>
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30 <item>Thank you to the Friends who are reviewing these responses. Your time
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31 and consideration is really valuable and appreciated.</item>
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33 </item>
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34 </list>
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35 </div>
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36 <div>
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37 <title>Anne Davies, Sarah J. Davies</title>
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38 <list type="defn">
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39 <item term="2">[ticked 'Not important'] I.e. Haymarket area reasonable.
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40 Suburbs accessible (from train/bus station)</item>
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41 <item term="12"><list type="enum">
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42 <item>Better access to building—almost impossible (steep hill/steps).</item>
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43 <item>Improve bottle neck entrance to Foyer.</item>
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44 <item>Improve access to loos—stairs v. tricky for elderly.</item>
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45 <item>Cheerful, purpose built areas for children &
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46 young people—i.e. for latter, Squashy sofas & their own 'den'.</item>
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47 <item>Parking facilities for cars bringing elderly to
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48 Meeting—imposs.</item>
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49 <item>Bike shelter.</item>
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50 </list></item>
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51 <item term="13"><list type="enum">
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52 <item>Let's start with this premise that we want the Meeting House to be a
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53 place for: Meeting for Worship; A quiet centre; A refuge for all looking to worship.</item>
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54 <item>Do we want to be tied, for the foreseeable future,
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55 to income generation?</item>
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56 <item>Is the building [therefore] too expensive to
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57 maintain? Is this the bottom line?</item>
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58 </list></item>
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59 </list>
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60 </div>
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61 <div>
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62 <title>Anon</title>
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64 <item term="12">No suggestions/ideas</item>
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65 <item term="13">Apart from considerable difficulty coping as a disabled (?)
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66 and weekly [sic] member (Member) particularly the Library—for coffee and
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67 the Hall similarly if I stay for lunch.</item>
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68 </list>
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69 </div>
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70 <div>
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71 <title>Marianne Ferguson Rice</title>
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73 <item term="2">Essential in my view</item>
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74 <item term="4">Mobility only considered here: Good, [but] the exceptions
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75 are Room 5 and the Bow Room</item>
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76 <item term="10">I think so</item>
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77 <item term="12">Upgrading of the toilet facilities (especially the
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78 men's)—essential. Might it be possible to provide a 2nd toilet
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79 <emph>accessible</emph> on the ground floor, beside the existing one? Possibly
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80 doing away with the existing sink and cupboards under it and moving the low
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81 sink nearer the doorway into the passage? A toilet suitable for people with
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82 mobility problems for general use on the 1st floor would be really helpful.</item>
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83 <item term="13"><list type="ndivs">
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84 <item>Perhaps double glazing would improve the use of the loop systems, at
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85 present they are of little benefit to those of us with a T setting on our
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86 hearing aids.</item>
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87 <item>For visually impaired people a lot needs to be done
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88 to assist them in moving around the building—please consult someone with
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89 real knowledge of the subject.</item>
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90 <item>In view of the downturn in lettings to outside
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91 bodies, we may have to rethink the free use of the building by all Quaker
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92 groups—I'll need to reconsider my pleadings for special cases for AVP
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93 Scotland and CAAT.</item>
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94 <item>I'd be interested to see a breakdown of the lettings
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95 to: a) charitable & b) commercial organisations. From an ethical point of
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96 view I'd hope to see a balance in favour of a), particularly smaller local
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97 charities, but I recognise the need for the income b) can bring.</item>
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98 <item>I'm just wondering if the constraints of Health
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99 & Safety regulation are leading to a more formal, perhaps over-organised,
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100 interior thus losing some of the informal, slightly more relaxed atmosphere?</item>
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101 </list></item>
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102 </list>
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103 </div>
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104 <div>
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105 <title>Anon</title>
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106 <list type="defn">
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107 <item term="8">Not ideal to have food & drink in a library.</item>
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108 <item term="12">I think it could be developed more explicitly as a community resource.</item>
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109 </list>
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110 </div>
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111 <div>
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112 <title>Anon</title>
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114 <item term="7">Don't know</item>
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115 <item term="10">Not sure</item>
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116 <item term="12">If we keep the building, we need a longer term strategy for
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117 its whole purpose. It may be that we need to look at alternative models for
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118 management. E.g. one management committee for the building's supervision.
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119 This would lead to a complete re-organisation of AM's committee structure.</item>
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120 <item term="13">Q. 10: If we don't know how much the building is costing
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121 us, how can we answer this question. Information should have been provided!</item>
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122 </list>
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123 </div>
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124 <div>
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125 <title>Alan Dickinson</title>
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126 <list type="defn">
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127 <item term="3">Progressively difficult, because of parking</item>
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128 </list>
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129 </div>
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130 <div>
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131 <title>John Phillips</title>
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133 <item term="12">There are clearly minor improvements to be made, but the
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134 building is not flexible nor can it be expanded (except by purchasing more
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135 flats in 6 Upper Bow). Improving toilets will remove Room 5 (a useful small
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136 committee or even teenagers room) from use. Improved access to creche area
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137 would be good. Upgrading kitchen will be to be done one day, whatever we
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138 decide about Festival use.</item>
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139 <item term="13"><list type="ndivs">
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140 <item>It is hard to make judgements based on present use since for the past ten
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141 years our childrens' classes have been very much diminished. I guess this is
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142 the "fault" of all of us, but it may well reverse one day, when we might be
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143 glad of as many rooms as possible.</item>
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144 <item>The building is not very user-friendly for outside
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145 groups—it would be good if we could be as flexible as possible about
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146 where people can eat in the building and where hot drinks and refreshments can
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147 be served.</item>
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148 <item>I can't see any chance that we could purchase an
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149 equally good building using money raised by selling 7VT. Its wonderful
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150 position in the city means we have to sacrifice some convenience—and lots
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151 of money. Sorry!</item>
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154 </div>
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155 <div>
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156 <title>Anon</title>
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158 <item term="2">No so important to <emph>me</emph> but <emph>very</emph>
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159 important to giving Quakers a high profile.</item>
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160 <item term="10">[Don't know] I would need to have information to compare value
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161 here with value somewhere comparable.</item>
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162 <item term="13">The soup lunch is very important</item>
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163 </list>
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164 </div>
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165 <div>
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166 <title>Ann Forsyth</title>
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168 <item term="12">All improvements possible have been carried out. However
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169 its location and size are difficult for some. Very well managed.</item>
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170 <item term="13">
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172 <item>I am aware the its use as a festival & general hire
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173 venue has provided valuable revenue. One may ask whether the needs for
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174 adequate staffing & caretaking have meant, in more recent times, that the
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175 revenue produced by the hiring pays for staffing and other costs associated
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176 with hiring; and whether this activity, and its many call on Quaker time, is
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177 best spent.</item>
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178 <item>I am also questioning whether running a café over the
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179 Festival period is best—or whether we should be allowing other
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180 cafés to provide food; and restrict what we offer to drinks, homebakes,
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181 and maybe a daily meal for staff, participants & others who would be
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182 content with a restricted menu. Again, it comes down to the question of
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183 whether all this effort is best spent, or whether others could do better,
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184 allowing us to focus our energy on more "Quakerly" activities.</item>
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185 </list>
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188 </div>
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189 <div>
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190 <title>Anon</title>
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192 <item term="12">I feel the Meeting House is managed exceedingly well</item>
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193 <item term="13">I feel we would be totally unable to get another building
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194 which would come anywhere near meeting our needs so well.</item>
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196 </div>
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197 <div>
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198 <title>Anon</title>
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200 <item term="12">I think it is just right as it is—the way I feel
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201 about my own house!</item>
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202 </list>
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203 </div>
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204 <div>
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205 <title>Anon</title>
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207 <item term="9">[Inadequate] Lay-out difficult</item>
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208 <item term="12">Option to switch off lift safety announcement during
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209 meeting for worship.</item>
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211 </div>
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212 <div>
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213 <title>Tony Peach</title>
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215 <item term="12">Improvement of toilet facilities if funds allow.</item>
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218 <item>The Meeting House, as you see from my answers above, ticks
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219 all the boxes for me. I see no reason to move and many to stay. I think it
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220 extremely unlikely we could find a better centre and would be best
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221 concentrating on realising how lucky we are to have it.</item>
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222 <item>If finance is thought to be the main problem, maybe more efforts could
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223 be concentrated on
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224 <list type="enum">
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225 <item>helping the Managers to maximise rentals;</item>
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226 <item>considering more fund-raising for future major financial outlay.</item>
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227 </list>
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228 </item>
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229 </list>
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232 </div>
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233 <div>
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234 <title>Anon</title>
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236 <item term="12">Can't think of any.</item>
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237 <item term="13">Seems perfect in every way.</item>
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238 </list>
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239 </div>
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240 <div>
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241 <title>Alan Davies</title>
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242 <list type="defn">
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243 <item term="13">Because the Meeting House is large & central, it is
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244 costly to maintain & to run. This has two consequences: the
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245 commercialisation of activities such as lettings & the rise of the
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246 managerial staff. I do not think it important for the Mtg. House to be in the
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247 centre of the city. Furthermore, the Meeting is now so large in numbers that
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248 MforW can be overburdened with ministry & individuals can be lost. I would
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249 suggest we consider splitting the Meeting in two & finding locations away
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250 from the city centre.</item>
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251 </list>
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252 </div>
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253 <div>
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254 <title>Annie Miller</title>
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255 <list type="defn">
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256 <item term="3">Difficult at the moment, because the terrace is closed</item>
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257 <item term="12"><list type="ndivs">
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258 <item>Upgrade toilets</item>
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259 <item>More time available for Quaker committees & other
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260 Quaker groups</item>
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261 </list></item>
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262 <item term="13">I would like us to consider 7VT as a contact point for all
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263 Quakers & attenders in Scotland, with an office for GM, maybe?</item>
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264 </list>
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265 </div>
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266 <div>
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267 <title>Penny (?) Holland</title>
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269 <item term="12">[Keep?] given slots for Quaker events e.g. funerals/weddings one
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270 Saturday afternoon per month free in Meeting Room for such
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271 opportunity—even if it means losing income.</item>
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272 <item term="13">Certainly think Victoria Terrace is <emph>the best
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273 option</emph> in spite of need for forward (?) 'upgrading' etc.</item>
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274 </list>
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275 </div>
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276 <div>
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277 <title>Rachel Frith</title>
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279 <item term="3">Access will be excellent soon I hope when building at end of terrace is finished</item>
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280 <item term="12">Toilets</item>
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281 </list>
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282 </div>
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283 <div>
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284 <title>Gill Reid</title>
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286 <item term="12">I think the building is managed well and feedback from
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287 people I know who use it and are not Quakers is good.</item>
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288 <item term="13">No home for any organisation is going to be perfect but this
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289 suits our needs.</item>
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290 </list>
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291 </div>
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292 <div>
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293 <title>Alastair Reid</title>
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297 <item>Some way that Friends could find out about the groups that use it.</item>
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298 <item>More devolution of decision-making to assistant managers if possible.</item>
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299 <item>Noticeboards—much improved lately—However could there be
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300 a small notice somewhere that says what is where.</item>
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301 <item>DO we have a leaflet etc. on hiring?</item>
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302 <item>Is there some way small rooms could be more easily booked (often
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303 seems to be full)</item>
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304 </list>
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305 </item>
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306 <item term="13">
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307 <list type="ndivs">
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308 <item>Readers guides to topics of books/pamphlets in library e.g.
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309 silence, intro to Quaker writings, beginners, Peace testimony, environmental
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310 testimony, Meeting for Worship, prayer etc. etc.</item>
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311 <item>I hope that we do not move/sell in the near future—we need an
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312 affordable central base—movement elsewhere could be expensive and not
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313 necessarily of benefit to Qs & the wider community.</item>
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314 </list>
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316 </list>
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317 </div>
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318 <div>
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319 <title>Anon</title>
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323 <item>Toilet facilities need upgrading;</item>
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324 <item>Children need a space
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325 that <emph>does not</emph> require access through the Kitchen—this is
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326 dangerous and makes a mockery of Health/Safety Regs;</item>
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327 <item>Priority must be given to Quaker Groups.</item>
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328 </list>
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329 </item>
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330 <item term="13">
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331 <list type="enum">
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332 <item>Radical changes need to be made with regard to
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333 Library/Kitchen/Children—It is impossible to cater for groups when access to
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334 the Kitchen is unavailable when the Library is in use. It is inefficient and
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335 unsafe for staff/users—particularly children.</item>
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336 <item>The running costs of the building are astronomical. Although I am
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337 in favour of remaining in the building, it might be preferable to find more
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338 'affordable' premises.</item>
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339 <item>The costs of staffing/managing the building are high because the
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340 building is inefficient to run. How do we find a way of upgrading the building
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341 with increasing running costs without it simply becoming a costly venue for
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342 external groups?</item>
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343 <item>Too much energy is being expended on hiring out the building.</item>
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344 <item>A Quaker Meeting House should be for use by Quakers and community groups.</item>
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350 <title>Anon</title>
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352 <item term="12">Toilets are a bit feeble</item>
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355 <div>
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356 <title>Anon</title>
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357 <list type="defn">
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358 <item term="8">[Adequately] Library gets too crowded at coffee time</item>
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359 <item term="12">{Update toilets; Update kitchen} essential if we are to
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360 continue letting rooms at commercial rates</item>
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361 <item term="13">Do we need to think about how the MH is used? Could it be
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362 used in a different way? Could finance be generated in different ways? e.g.
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363 Cafe downstairs where the foyer is.</item>
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364 </list>
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365 </div>
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366 <div>
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367 <title>Anon</title>
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368 <list type="defn">
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369 <item term="10">[Don't know] Probably <emph>yes</emph>.</item>
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370 <item term="12">The Meeting Room is a wonderful and light space with a good
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371 atmosphere. But the acoustics are dreadful—a lot of echo, and the loop
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372 system picks up the sound from the street which masks the speaker's words.</item>
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373 <item term="13">The location is very good, and probably outweighs the
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374 awkwardness of its internal structure. The committee has done a very good job
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375 in making the most of its potential, and the welcoming wardens and staff are
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376 excellent—the human element is <emph>most</emph> important. The window
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377 displays are attractive & informative.</item>
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378 </list>
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379 </div>
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380 <div>
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381 <title>Anon</title>
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382 <list type="defn">
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383 <item term="12">Perhaps more bench seating—the chairs are not
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384 particularly comfortable.</item>
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385 <item term="13">I hope the Festival activity continues with continued
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386 creativity and success.</item>
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387 </list>
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388 </div>
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389 <div>
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390 <title>Anon</title>
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391 <p>I don't feel qualified to answer these questions. I don't know enough.
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392 I love this building, what it offers Quakers & other communities & esp.
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393 the quality of air & light in the meeting room. But I don't think we
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394 should spend most of our money on a building. There are much more important
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395 things than buildings. We could do what some churches do and hire space weekly
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396 for meeting.</p>
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397 </div>
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398 <div>
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399 <title>Elisabeth Carnall</title>
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400 <list type="defn">
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401 <item term="2">[Very important] Good public transport <emph>vital</emph>,
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402 especially when Terrace is open again</item>
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403 <item term="4">[Good] Loos up and down stairs.</item>
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404 <item term="8">[Hall: very well; Library: well] Library can't be quiet place.</item>
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405 <item term="12">I would like to be less conscious of rules and regulations.
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406 The MH has felt less like home under the new Health & Safety requirements.
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407 I don't feel the need to enhance the display of Quaker materials. I am happy
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408 to see evidence of other users of the building.</item>
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409 <item term="13">
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410 <list type="ndivs">
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411 <item>I have felt cut off from the Meeting House while the Terrace has been
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412 closed as <emph>going up & along & down</emph> to my bust stop has been
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413 tedious for a slow walker. Sometimes I have walked to Bridges buses. Or to
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414 Princes Street ones. I miss the 35 (& 1) which used to stop in the
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415 Lawnmarket. <emph>But</emph> I would deplore the idea of a suburban location,
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416 'convenient for parking'.</item>
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417 <item>Before we chose this building, when we were looking, we said we
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418 wanted a building that "wouldn't just be a Sunday building." It has been
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419 gratifying that our MH has been well used by a very wide variety of groups. I
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420 hope this will pick up again when the Terrace re-opens.</item>
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421 <item>I have been very sorry to hear that a very long-standing tenant,
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422 using the building several days in the week [?has left?]. This is unfortunate
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423 both for us and for her. I can't imagine going to art classes in the Central
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424 Halls.</item>
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425 <item>I think that as a city much visited it is valuable to have a meeting
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426 house at the centre, highly visible. Making the MH part of the Festival has
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427 made us part of the community & superb <emph>outreach</emph>.</item>
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428 </list></item>
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429 </list>
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430 </div>
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431 <div>
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432 <title>Geoffrey Carnall</title>
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433 <list type="defn">
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434 <item term="12">On the whole the Wardening is friendly & welcoming, and
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435 it's very important to remember that this needs to be a primary concern.</item>
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436 <item term="13">I do think the meeting house is <emph>superb</emph> for
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437 outreach. Tommy Sheridan kneeling in from of a window to read <emph>Quaker
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438 News</emph>. The work of Venue 40 in the Festival is magnificent. I always
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439 feel guilt in that for me the Peace & Justice Centre has to take priority.
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440 Sed non omnia possumus omnes.</item>
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441 </list>
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442 </div>
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443 <div>
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444 <title>Anon</title>
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445 <list type="defn">
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446 <item term="12">Sometimes the room booking procedure is inflexible &
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447 not user friendly. Also "welcome" is not always friendly on days other than
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448 Sunday. The loop in the Meeting Room is not effective and many people can't hear.</item>
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449 <item term="13">I think it is very important that V.T. is used as a
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450 community resource for 3rd sector and campaigning groups. It is also essential
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451 that the Quaker Meeting is centrally located and visible to the wider
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452 communities in Edinburgh and visitors.</item>
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453 </list>
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454 </div>
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455 <div>
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456 <title>Anon</title>
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457 <list type="defn">
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458 <item term="12">Could coffee not be upstairs in a short break in a meeting,
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459 with a cold water filled urn&then heating water for tea & coffee <emph>?</emph></item>
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460 </list>
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461 </div>
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462 <div>
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463 <title>Anon</title>
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464 <list type="defn">
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465 <item term="12">I feel it is managed very well at all times.</item>
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466 </list>
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467 </div>
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