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8 <title>Future of 7 VT working group: Fifth meeting</title>
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9 <author>This informal summary by Henry S. Thompson, Convenor</author>
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10 <date>Held at 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh on 22 February 2009, 7:30 p.m.</date>
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12 <body>
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13 <div>
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14 <title>Attendance</title>
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15 <p>Present: Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding,
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16 Brian Mayes, Laurie Naumann,
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17 Eileen Schott, Henry Thompson (in the clerk's chair)</p>
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18 </div>
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19 <div>
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20 <title>Paper from Phil Lucas</title>
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21 <p>HST circulated a paper with some thoughts from PL</p>
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22 <p>AB reminded us that we must bear in mind that all the input we've had is from
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23 individual perspectives, on a very complex multi-faceted problem, and it is not
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24 surprising that the perspectives are not entirely consistent with one another.
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25 Furthermore, those inconsistencies need not be 'blamed' on individuals.</p>
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26 <p>We were left uncertain just what it would mean if we were, or were not, a "Quaker
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27 Centre". Not all QCs are residential, if we understand KJ's contributions last time.
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28 We are by far the largest Quaker premises in Scotland. 7VT is evidently not just a
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29 place which is primarily used for Meeting for Worship, and committee meetings.</p>
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30 <p>The question of why we don't have outside signage arose. When the terrace
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31 re-opens through to G-IV bridge, we should certainly try to get something put there
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32 again, with less uncertain orientation than the previous one.</p>
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33 <p>How far can we go with sitting lightly to the full force of the health and
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34 safety, fire, food hygiene advice and/or regulations? AB has suggested to the Clerk of
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35 AM that we need a threshing meeting at AM level to air all the issues around the
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36 regulations. We believe that Trustees have asked John Phillips to write a report on
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37 this. Our testimony to truth and integrity can be a burden as well as a blessing.</p>
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38 <p>Does the cooking regulation watershed apply <emph>only</emph> if food is sold, as
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39 opposed to being made available to the group which also does the cooking? Is Fabric
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40 and Maintenance likely to know the answer? Tom Nisbet? Ken Jobling?</p>
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41 </div>
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42 <div>
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43 <title>Envisaging futures</title>
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44 <p>Brainstorming</p>
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45 <list>
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46 <item>Day-time letting only?</item>
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47 <item>Quaker Centre?</item>
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48 <item>Full-service Rain Forest cafe?</item>
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49 <item>Quaker presence?</item>
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50 <item>Eliminate regular bookings in favour of blocks?</item>
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51 <item>A Quaker-only centre?</item>
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52 <item>Move out of town?</item>
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53 <item>Primarily seen as a physical resource for the AM, with other activities complementing that</item>
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54 <item>Simplify things? Reduce the kitchen to hot-drinks only?</item>
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55 <item>Being open to young Quaker groups?</item>
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56 <item>Doing (whatever we do) in <emph>our own space</emph></item>
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57 <item>Being a base for outreach?</item>
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58 <item>Provide courses for Quakers (and non-Quakers) -- Quaker Quest all year round</item>
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59 <item>Move kitchen to ground-floor, replacing office/Bow room, and make the
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60 foyer a real cafe [new from Anthony Buxton via HST after the meeting]</item>
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61 </list>
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62 <p>Central Edinburgh LM has come to be very dependent on an attractive (that is,
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63 including hot soup) lunch -- what impact on that would the reduced kitchen option(s) make?</p>
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64 <p>Again, does our particular situation mean that health and safety regulations
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65 apply fully or not when we have a youth group?</p>
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66 <p>How well 'advertised' are the resources we already have here? Different answers
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67 for different kinds of resources. . . Where does this fit in? Windows?</p>
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68 </div>
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69 <div>
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70 <title>Actions</title>
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71 <p>HST to get the Kath Russell report, and some letting evaluation
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72 forms, say from 4Q2008, and circulate. Also ask if any summary or collation has been done.</p>
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73 <p>HST to ask Ken Jobling where to find the details of how food hygiene regulations
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74 apply depending on exactly what's happening.</p>
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75 </div>
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76 <div>
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77 <title>Next Meeting</title>
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78 <p>Our next meeting will be at 7 Victoria Terrace at 7:30pm on Sunday 8 March. We
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79 tentatively agreed on 23 March for our next meeting after that.</p>
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