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27 </style><title>Future of 7 VT working group: Fifth meeting</title></head><body style="font-family: DejaVu Sans, Arial; background: rgb(254,250,246)">
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29 <h1>Future of 7 VT working group: Fifth meeting</h1>
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30 <div class="byline">This informal summary by Henry S. Thompson, Convenor</div>
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31 <div class="byline">Held at 7 Victoria Terrace, Edinburgh on 22 February 2009, 7:30 p.m.</div>
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34 <div>
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35 <h2>1. Attendance</h2>
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36 <p>Present: Alison Burnley, Madeleine Harding,
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37 Brian Mayes, Laurie Naumann,
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38 Eileen Schott, Henry Thompson (in the clerk's chair)</p>
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40 <div>
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41 <h2>2. Paper from Phil Lucas</h2>
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42 <p>HST circulated a paper with some thoughts from PL</p>
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43 <p>AB reminded us that we must bear in mind that all the input we've had is from
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44 individual perspectives, on a very complex multi-faceted problem, and it is not
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45 surprising that the perspectives are not entirely consistent with one another.
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46 Furthermore, those inconsistencies should not be 'blamed' on individuals.</p>
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47 <p>We were left uncertain just what it would mean if we were, or were not, a "Quaker
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48 Centre". Not all QCs are residential, if we understand KJ's contributions last time.
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49 We are by far the largest Quaker premises in Scotland. 7VT is evidently not just a
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50 place which is primarily used for Meeting for Worship, and committee meetings.</p>
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51 <p>The question of why we don't have outside signage arose. When the terrace
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52 re-opens through to G-IV bridge, we should certainly try to get something put there
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53 again, with less uncertain orientation than the previous one.</p>
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54 <p>How far can we go with sitting lightly to the full force of the health and
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55 safety, fire, food hygiene advice and/or regulations? AB has suggested to the Clerk of
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56 AM that we need a threshing meeting at AM level to air all the issues around the
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57 regulations. We believe that Trustees have asked John Phillips to write a report on
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58 this. Our testimony to truth and integrity can be a burden as well as a blessing.</p>
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59 <p>Does the cooking regulation watershed apply <i>only</i> if food is sold, as
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60 opposed to being made available to the group which also does the cooking? Is Fabric
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61 and Maintenance likely to know the answer? Tom Nisbet? Ken Jobling?</p>
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62 </div>
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63 <div>
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64 <h2>3. Envisaging futures</h2>
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65 <p>Brainstorming</p>
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66 <ul>
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67 <li>Day-time letting only?</li>
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68 <li>Quaker Centre?</li>
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69 <li>Full-service Rain Forest cafe?</li>
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70 <li>Quaker presence?</li>
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71 <li>Eliminate regular bookings in favour of blocks?</li>
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72 <li>A Quaker-only centre?</li>
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73 <li>Move out of town?</li>
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74 <li>Primarily seen as a physical resource for the AM, with other activities complementing that</li>
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75 <li>Simplify things? Reduce the kitchen to hot-drinks only?</li>
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76 <li>Being open to young Quaker groups?</li>
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77 <li>Doing (whatever we do) in <i>our own space</i></li>
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78 <li>Being a base for outreach?</li>
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79 <li>Provide courses for Quakers (and non-Quakers) -- Quaker Quest all year round</li>
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80 <li>Move kitchen to ground-floor, replacing office/Bow room, and make the
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81 foyer a real cafe [new from Anthony Buxton via HST after the meeting]</li>
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82 </ul>
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83 <p>Central Edinburgh LM has come to be very dependent on an attractive (that is,
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84 including hot soup) lunch -- what impact on that would the reduced kitchen option(s) make?</p>
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85 <p>Again, does our particular situation mean that health and safety regulations
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86 apply fully or not when we have a youth group?</p>
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87 <p>How well 'advertised' are the resources we already have here? Different answers
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88 for different kinds of resources. . . Where does this fit in? Windows?</p>
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89 </div>
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90 <div>
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91 <h2>4. Actions</h2>
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92 <p>HST to get the Kath Russell report, and some letting evaluation
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93 forms, say from 4Q2008, and circulate. Also ask if any summary or collation has been done.</p>
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94 <p>HST to ask Ken Jobling where to find the details of how food hygiene regulations
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95 apply depending on exactly what's happening.</p>
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96 </div>
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97 <div>
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98 <h2>5. Next Meeting</h2>
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99 <p>Our next meeting will be at 7 Victoria Terrace at 7:30pm on Sunday 8 March. We
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100 tentatively agreed on 23 March for our next meeting after that.</p>
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