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| author | Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> |
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| date | Thu, 22 May 2025 16:42:36 +0100 |
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--- /dev/null Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 1970 +0000 +++ b/2025-05-08.txt Thu May 22 16:42:36 2025 +0100 @@ -0,0 +1,63 @@ +[HST spent too long trying to get the astonishing fact of language + evolution on the table as something which deserves a place in GA] + +The inscrutability of the size of Universe is another thing that +defies comprehension. + +If it's just chance that we happen to have come to be in a corner of +that Universe where recursive compositional expressive mechanisms are +possible the unlikelihood isn't an argument against it being the case. + +Suppose I were to say to a high-school class we agree to have +recursively-specifiable syntactic and semantic language, and have a +brain that produces and consumes its product, and yes, it's unlikely +in the extreme, but so-be-it. + +Is there anything to conclude from that. + +Imagine the course we're teaching, and a typology of unlikelihoods, +smallness and small-enough-ness. Very^4 unlikely that we'll gasp for +breath because the oxygen has all left the room. Do we have to have a +view on whether there's a universe almost like ours where the same +UUID _does_ get minted for two different objects? + +What are we doing? We want to... MacIntyre says we need 'real' +language to reflect on/assess our beliefs and desires. Evolved +corners of the universe that have the requisite properties that [this +process] can be enjoined are astonishingly unlikely, but we are +evidently in one. + +What more do we need, in order to have intentionality. + +[HST] MacIntyre grants (persistent of) categorisations +[BCS] Sufficient, or Necessary? [HST] I'll take that as a homework assignment + +[BCS] Suppose we have a minimal 'higher' animal: persistent individuals and +categorisation. Do you have anything yet that reeks of the religious? +My intuition is 'no'. The critter has to stand up on its hind legs +and _wonder_, in order for there to be... in order for its finitude, +one might say, to lead it to [HST ask Why?][ref. _Child's Christmas in +Wales] + +MacIntyre on Davidson? Counterfactuals are crucial to practical +reasoning. BCS says I could imagine a counterfactual toting rational +argumenter, who still lacks this openness to God and to wonder. + +And until an AI system can wonder, I won't be particularly +interested/concerned, it will still be a mere machine. + +Haugeland distinguishes the impossible from the possible but not +actual from the actual. + +"A blue proton" gets you in to trouble. + +With respect of our project, and the opening salvos of GA, there is a +need to characterise the territory that we want to open up, and +something has to be very open to not reduce to boring behaviourism. + +The speaker has to be gripped by a certain openness, a certain +possibility, will this cake rise whatever. How to open the space +enough for wonder to be genuinely gripping, seems important. + +We want people to want to read this after the first page or two, even +if they can't say exactly why.
