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author	Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk>
date	Thu, 05 Dec 2024 16:50:19 +0000
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8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	1 BCS (0:40 - 0:44)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	2
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	3 One of them being that I haven't done my homework for a reason I want
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	4 to try to explain, actually.
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	5
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	6 ...
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	7
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	8 BCS (1:51 - 2:57)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	9
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	10 We'll talk anyway. And I have a question about substance.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	11
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	12 ...
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	13
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	14 BCS (3:47 - 4:15)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	15
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	16 So I was struck when I wrote the postscript note to our last
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	17 meeting. By how I was framing everything.
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	18 In terms of. Well, actually, I don't even remember the last note. Hang
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	19 on a second.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	20
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	21 Maybe I should take a look at it.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	22
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	23 HST (5:25 - 5:25)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	24
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	25 Right.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	26
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	27 BCS (5:26 - 5:53)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	28
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	29 All right. So yeah, I've got it. Right:
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	30
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	31 [Email sent 2024-06-08
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	32 A quick thought about what I said in our last conversation.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	33
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	34 I described my imagination of a “machinic person” by comparison with
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	35 current ideas … the pure mechanism of classical science, then “rationality”
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	36 with reference to Frege and logic etc., then normativity and the current
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	37 paradigm of deriving it from evolutionary fit, etc.
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	38
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	39 But I think at least some versions of G,A do something completely
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	40 different. They start with (my version of) the blooming buzzing confusion,
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	41 and talk about the emergence of creatures from that. S-region and O-region
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	42 stuff from the Objects book (though I no longer like those names), deixis
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	43 from the differential equations, etc.
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	44
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	45 For short, call these the historical and metaphysical approaches. What
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	46 I talked about at the end of our conversation (on Thursday?) was the
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	47 historical story. When I re-read the G,A drafts, I am going to see whether
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	48 they fit neatly into either of these two categories, or a mixture, or
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	49 something else, or what..
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	50
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	51 Just mulling.]
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	52
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	53 So as in the first [sic] paragraph, I say, call these the "historical"
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	54 and "metaphysical" approaches.
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	55
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	56 And what I have not done is read any [earlier versions of the
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	57 manuscript]. So what you think you have or what you know that you have
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	58 is something like version 11. Is that right?
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	59
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	60 HST (6:09 - 6:18)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	61
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	62 That's correct. 2009 version 11, which I would say in terms of this
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	63 dichotomy is entirely the historical approach.
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	64
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	65 BCS (6:19 - 6:19)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	66
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	67 Okay.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	68
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	69 HST (6:19 - 6:37)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	70
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	71 And I think that's consistent with the note at the top, which says
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	72
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	73 "In previous versions of this, I tried to produce a metaphysics, which
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	74 would underpin what I'm talking about, but didn't get far enough to
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	75 make it worth reproducing or something like that."
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	76
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	77 BCS (6:38 - 6:41)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	78
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	79 And I did say "in previous versions of this".
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	80
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	81 HST (6:41 - 8:23)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	82
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	83 Yes, it is:
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	84
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	85 "A number of manuscripts have been circulated under this title over
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	86 the last 15 years. Right. This one lacks any sketch of a worldview
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	87 exhibiting the characteristics described."
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	88
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	89 I presume that means described below as it were.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	90
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	91 "Somewhat in response to the first version, which tried to provide
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	92 such a view without explanation of what was interesting or mattered
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	93 about it. If it seems worthwhile, I may someday incorporate all the
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	94 various versions into a single" [HST: long, it says] "short monograph."
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	95
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	96 BCS (8:34 - 10:57)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	97
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	98 Right. Okay. Well, that's very helpful actually to me.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	99
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	100 Bob @?, thank you for finding that. Yes, I think that longer monograph,
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	101 the yet to be produced longer monograph is what I feel as if we're
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	102 aiming at. And I don't actually know whether I made any attempt to say
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	103 that these lead to the same view.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	104
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	105 I have actually thought about that. Okay. So, let me actually recite
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	106 from memory four or five sentences and tell me if they ring a bell.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	107
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	108 Have you ever read them? Goes something like this. Start at the
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	109 beginning.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	110
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	111 That is, start at what those who'd like to start at the beginning
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	112 start with. @? Bosons, fermions, quarks, assemblages pressed into atoms
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	113 and molecules and DNA and so on and so forth. And then the second
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	114 paragraph saying, of course, something like that's not a beginning.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	115
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	116 Many will argue, whatever. And then something like, but actually it
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	117 doesn't matter where we start. We'll end up in the same place.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	118
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	119 So, in the media there would be something like other people would say
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	120 start with stories or something like that. Anyway.
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	121
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	122 HST (10:58 - 12:12)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	123
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	124 I see what you're saying. Okay. I mean, I think it's important that
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	125 you, well, it changes where you go next to have something like the
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	126 storyline, because otherwise it's all just about where you cut the
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	127 physics.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	128
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	129 And that I think is not enough. That's just what I think of as, I had
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	130 a version of this conversation last week with my regular Quaker
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	131 interlocutor. There are these two questions, which I believe, which I
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	132 tend to attribute to Kant, but I may get wrong.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	133
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	134 Why is there something rather than nothing? And how would I live my
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	135 life? And if you talk to Dominicans, for instance, they will happily
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	136 talk about one or the other, but usually find it challenging to see
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	137 what the relationship is between likely answers to the first and
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	138 likely answers to the second.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	139
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	140 That's another way of saying what it is you're trying to bring
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	141 together, I think.
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	142
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	143 BCS (12:12 - 13:08)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	144
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	145 I think so. Yeah, I think so. And I think what I put in the note after
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	146 the historical approach is sort of a story about how our understanding
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	147 of fermions and bosons, as it were, has been pressed into service as a
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	148 grounds for normativity and maybe objectivity and so on and so forth.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	149
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	150 I don't think successfully, but there is... @?
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	151
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	152 HST (13:08 - 13:13)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	153
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	154 That's really the first large paragraph in the email.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	155
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	156 BCS (13:14 - 13:19)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	157
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	158 Right.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	159
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	160 HST (13:20 - 13:32)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	161
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	162 Well, the pure mechanism of classical science, then rationality with
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	163 reference to Frege and @? logic, then normativity, and the current paradigm
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	164 of deriving it from the evolutionary field, etc. Right. @?
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	165
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	166 BCS (13:42 - 15:20)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	167
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	168 Yeah. So then the argument would go something like this, that the only
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	169 tenable version of the metaphysical approach, well, sorry, the only
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	170 tenable version of both approaches ends up being indistinguishable
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	171 from the tenable version of the other. And one crucial factor in that,
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	172 I believe, is that both stories have to do justice to our being here.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	173
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	174 HST (15:22 - 15:31)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	175
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	176 You know the thing, which I think is very bizarrely labeled, the
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	177 anthropic principle?
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	178
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	179 BCS (15:31 - 15:32)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	180
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	181 Right.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	182
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	183 HST (15:32 - 15:42)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	184
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	185 Which attempts to dissolve the first of the Kantian questions by
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	186 saying, because if there weren't something, we wouldn't be here to ask
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	187 the question, so get over it.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	188
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	189 BCS (15:45 - 16:03)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	190
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	191 Yes, but I think that the anthropic principle is misapplied radically
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	192 because they try to understand what the world needs to be like in
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	193 order to support life or inquiry or something like that.
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	194
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	195 HST (16:05 - 16:31)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	196
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	197 ... [For example] that Planck's constant is what it is, and that if
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	198 you varied it by not very much in either direction, nothing would
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	199 work, isn't something that needs explanation because it evidently is
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	200 the case.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	201
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	202 BCS (16:31 - 16:31)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	203
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	204 Right.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	205
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	206 HST (16:32 - 16:52)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	207
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	208 ... I don't think that changes the availability of both projects,
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	209 essentially.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	210
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	211 BCS (17:06 - 17:53)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	212
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	213 I think that's right. And I actually think, you know, this is... Well,
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	214 I'm going to have to agree to the long rather than short [see at 8:23 above].
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	215
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	216 I'm assuming if I go down this pathway, but I actually think the
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	217 fact... Well, as I put it, which is transparent to nobody, the
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	218 ontological warrant for the epistemic fact that we use differential
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	219 equations to express physical laws is actually... I mean, I don't know
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	220 if I said this in the objects book, but anyway, underlies the Dysus @? of
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	221 the world, which I think is fundamental to consciousness and self and
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	222 various things like that.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	223
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	224 HST (17:56 - 18:08)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	225
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	226 [In the Objects book you talk] about the importance of "slop".
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	227
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	228 BCS (18:09 - 18:11)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	229
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	230 Yeah, no, that's a different thing.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	231
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	232 HST (18:11 - 18:14)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	233
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	234 That is a different thing. Okay. Nevermind then.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	235
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	236 Rasson.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	237
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	238 BCS (18:20 - 18:25)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	239
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	240 What's the... Rasson regardless? @?
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	241
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	242 HST (18:26 - 18:26)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	243
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	244 Yeah.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	245
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	246 BCS (18:27 - 19:54)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	247
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	248 I'm not sure I should accept the regardless just now, but yeah, the
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	249 Dysus @?deixis? stuff is, I think, important to self. And something else that's
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	250 interesting, this is going to sound a little bit like a non-sequitur,
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	251 but I think it's not for obvious reasons. The fact that LLMs are based
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	252 on language is, I think, possibly consequential, but possibly not the
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	253 reason for their success.
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	254
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	255 Because I think the power of them stems from the fact that the
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	256 relationality that they encode is so stupefyingly huge that all the
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	257 content of the state of the network is bizarrely non-conceptual in the
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	258 sense of that. ?@
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	259
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	260 HST (19:58 - 20:16)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	261
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	262 Absolutely. I mean, they got somewhere by not being
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	263 representational. Well, not being _explicitly_ representational. That
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	264 no amount of additional funding to Doug Lenat and company would ever
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	265 have gotten to.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	266
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	267 BCS (20:17 - 20:25)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	268
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	269 Right, right. Exactly. How to say that well is not trivial, but I
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	270 completely agree.
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	271
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	272 HST (20:26 - 20:44)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	273
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	274 Yeah, I mean, it would be useful in the indefinitely unforeseeable
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	275 future to have a conversation involving Fernando Pereira about this,
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	276 because... He was here six months ago, and ... he was expanding .. on
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	277 his anger about the fact, about the impact of his own company's work,
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	278 indirectly in terms of OpenAI @?, but in ChatGPT and so on. ... He's
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	279 very angry about the way in which people are treating the natural
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	280 language problem as having now been solved and or being soluble only
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	281 by the technologies of LLMs. But what he did for us in that
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	282 conversation, and I wish I had recorded it, was give me a much clearer
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	283 sense of the scale of the base model. And also the scale of the
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	284 priming that it gets in order to make it a question answerer.
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	285
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	286 BCS (22:56 - 22:57)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	287
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	288 Prompt engineering.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	289
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	290 [digression on LLMs and question-answering, base models, the
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	291 difference between GPT-3 or GPT-4 and ChatGPT, the translation of a
46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	292 human query into a prompt @fix this@ ]
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	293
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	294 HST (28:33 - 28:35)
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	295
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	296 Anyway, sorry, that is taking us away now.
abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	297
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	298 BCS (28:35 - 29:59)
6 abb1b1e2f6fc trying alternative sources of free speech-to-text Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: diff changeset	299
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	300 No, not entirely, because there was a title of a talk I was thinking
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	301 of putting together, something like the nonverbal meaning of words. If
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	302 we talk about, not only about Sussman, but let's say, and what he
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	303 meant by empirical or something, but just we talk about... Well,] the
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	304 things we're talking about, the three parts, the base model, the delta
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	305 that turns it into a question answering machine, and the prompt
438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	306 engineering that turns a particular prompt into a particular prompt,
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	307 basically, particular question into a particular @?
8 438dc80354b8 cleaned up a bit Henry S Thompson <ht@inf.ed.ac.uk> parents: 6 diff changeset	308
9 46b1600e1d55 Cut lots of HST, clean up false starts etc,, Henry Thompson <ht@markup.co.uk> parents: 8 diff changeset	309

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